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mysterious water in the floor Graven Water 06-23-2008
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Posted by Graven Water on June 23, 2008, 9:25 pm
I posted earlier, i still can't figure out how water is getting into my
floorboards. The floorboards get wet at the cracks, as if water were
seeping along the tongue and groove channels, in an area about 3' by
2', and it seems to be associated with rain, though I'm not sure of that.
The floor is above ground level but not by very much.

However, there's a staircase going down to the basement between the part
of the floor that's getting wet and the outside wall! So it's hard
for water couldn't be coming from the outside wall.

There's an inside wall near that area, and the water heater vent runs up
to the roof inside the wall. I thought maybe there's a roof leak near the
water heater vent. But I just went up into the attic, right after a heavy
thunderstorm, and felt around the vent, and everything is dry!

Also the roof vent seems to have a quite adequate cap on it.

So I just don't know. I can look up at the subflooring under that area
and it isn't wet. The water heater vent is the only possible water source
I can see near that area.

Can water come up from the water heater somehow??? It's an old water
heater, is it possible there might be a lot of condensation in there or
something?

I'm getting a digital camera, I guess I could post pictures. Of what I
don't know.

Any ideas?

Laura


Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 23, 2008, 10:09 pm

>I posted earlier, i still can't figure out how water is getting into my
> floorboards. The floorboards get wet at the cracks, as if water were
> seeping along the tongue and groove channels, in an area about 3' by
> 2', and it seems to be associated with rain, though I'm not sure of that.
> The floor is above ground level but not by very much.

>
> Can water come up from the water heater somehow??? It's an old water
> heater, is it possible there might be a lot of condensation in there or
> something?

You don't have radiant heat do you?


Doubt it is condensation. Do water lines run near the area? Baseboard
heating system? It may be a tiny pinhole leak in one of those and water is
running along a channel someplace. I had an expansion joint leak in my
heating system and it took me a week to find the source is it was not
visible where the actual leak was.

You mention rain, but if it is above grade I doubt it is water coming up,
but possibly down inside a wall.



Posted by Don Young on June 23, 2008, 10:40 pm

>I posted earlier, i still can't figure out how water is getting into my
> floorboards. The floorboards get wet at the cracks, as if water were
> seeping along the tongue and groove channels, in an area about 3' by
> 2', and it seems to be associated with rain, though I'm not sure of that.
> The floor is above ground level but not by very much.
>
> However, there's a staircase going down to the basement between the part
> of the floor that's getting wet and the outside wall! So it's hard
> for water couldn't be coming from the outside wall.
>
> There's an inside wall near that area, and the water heater vent runs up
> to the roof inside the wall. I thought maybe there's a roof leak near the
> water heater vent. But I just went up into the attic, right after a heavy
> thunderstorm, and felt around the vent, and everything is dry!
>
> Also the roof vent seems to have a quite adequate cap on it.
>
> So I just don't know. I can look up at the subflooring under that area
> and it isn't wet. The water heater vent is the only possible water source
> I can see near that area.
>
> Can water come up from the water heater somehow??? It's an old water
> heater, is it possible there might be a lot of condensation in there or
> something?
>
> I'm getting a digital camera, I guess I could post pictures. Of what I
> don't know.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Laura
Condensation in water heater vent pipes is not unusual. It is more likely
when the air is cool and humid so it can be related to rainy conditions. The
pipe should slant so that the water drains back toward the heater. The
joints should be assembled so that water does not leak out. It is then
re-vaporized and carried out the vent once the heater flue and vent pipe
warm up good.

You could put some newspaper or paper towels under the vent pipe to see if
any water leaks out. Talcum powder sprinkled around will also show up any
water drips or seepage.

Don Young



Posted by topservicepros on June 23, 2008, 11:19 pm
Quote: pbbl wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 20:25
----------------------------------------------------
> Can water come up from the water heater somehow??? It's an old water
> heater, is it possible there might be a lot of condensation in there or
> something?
----------------------------------------------------

Could it be that your hot water heater is leaking? I had a tank failure
recently and it showed up as a puddle around the tank. Luckily mine was in the
garage so no big deal. How old is the water heater? Is it sitting in a drain
pan?

--
Richard Thoms
Founder - Top Service Pros, Inc.
Connecting Homeowners and Local Service Professionals
http://www.TopServicePros.com

Posted by Norminn on June 24, 2008, 7:50 am
Graven Water wrote:

>I posted earlier, i still can't figure out how water is getting into my
>floorboards. The floorboards get wet at the cracks, as if water were
>seeping along the tongue and groove channels, in an area about 3' by
>2', and it seems to be associated with rain, though I'm not sure of that.
>The floor is above ground level but not by very much.
>
>However, there's a staircase going down to the basement between the part
>of the floor that's getting wet and the outside wall! So it's hard
>for water couldn't be coming from the outside wall.
>
>There's an inside wall near that area, and the water heater vent runs up
>to the roof inside the wall. I thought maybe there's a roof leak near the
>water heater vent. But I just went up into the attic, right after a heavy
>thunderstorm, and felt around the vent, and everything is dry!
>
>Also the roof vent seems to have a quite adequate cap on it.
>
>So I just don't know. I can look up at the subflooring under that area
>and it isn't wet. The water heater vent is the only possible water source
>I can see near that area.
>
>Can water come up from the water heater somehow??? It's an old water
>heater, is it possible there might be a lot of condensation in there or
>something?
>
>I'm getting a digital camera, I guess I could post pictures. Of what I
>don't know.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Laura
>
>
>
A couple of things come to mind. First, plumbing near the wet spot but
in adjacent room.....
even splash while bathing or showering and the water finds a lower
spot. Second, a leak
in roof or fascia can travel laterally on beams or ducts, or just down
an outside wall or
plumbing stack.

Another resident in our condo had a very significant amount of water
come in through
a small gap in exterior fascia. The water came out of the ceiling where
she had hooks
for hanging plants.

I would inspect all of the inside of the roof, exterior openings and
joints, under all plumbing
fixtures, inside plumbing access panels. Even a hose faucet, if not
caulked outside, might
allow water in under certain conditions. Got bottled water stored anywhere?

I found a mysterious puddle of laundry detergent the other day, which
seemed to be coming
from UNDER the washer. Couldn't figure that one out. When the
detergent was all gone,
I filled the bottle to rinse out the last of the detergent. and the
water ran all over. There was
a tiny dent on the bottom of the bottle which had a very small crack
open up. It must have sat
on the dryer with the little opening such that detergent ran down
between washer and dryer.

Good luck, and let us know :o)

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