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need a good water filter Julie 07-28-2006
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Posted by JimL on July 30, 2006, 1:41 pm
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:18:47 -0500, ransley@webtv.net (m Ransley)
wrote:

>So you have proof of this

Yep, that's what I said. Read it again. It says that the reverse
osmosis kit I suggested, comes with an electronic meter to measure
impurities.

Try any meter on your filtered water and on a reverse osmosis system
and you will see the light.

The downside of reverse osmosis system is that it uses water to clean
the membrane. Maybe as much as one gallon of water for every gallon
filtered but I'm not sure.








Posted by Robert Gammon on August 1, 2006, 7:11 am
JimL wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:18:47 -0500, ransley@webtv.net (m Ransley)
> wrote:
>
>
>> So you have proof of this
>>
>
> Yep, that's what I said. Read it again. It says that the reverse
> osmosis kit I suggested, comes with an electronic meter to measure
> impurities.
>
> Try any meter on your filtered water and on a reverse osmosis system
> and you will see the light.
>
> The downside of reverse osmosis system is that it uses water to clean
> the membrane. Maybe as much as one gallon of water for every gallon
> filtered but I'm not sure.
>
>
>
That's not it. The waste water carries away the minerals and bacteria
that make it past the carbon and spun polyester filters. The
concentration of minerals in the waste water is basically double what
the fee water has in it.

Cleaning the membrane is something that get done in large systems on a
schedule. 1000-3000Gal/Day are supposed to get a washdown of the
membrane every couple of years. Under the counter models for home use
don't process enough water to ever clog the membrane.


Posted by JimL on August 4, 2006, 1:32 pm
>That's not it. The waste water carries away the minerals and bacteria
>that make it past the carbon and spun polyester filters. ....

Yep, that's exactly it.




Posted by on July 28, 2006, 8:28 am

Julie wrote:

> I have been through a few water filters recently. My stomach is very
> sensitive to the heavy metals that can be a by product of the filtration
> system from the cartridges.

No, it's not. You have a hysterical disorder that can usually be
remedies through therapy or drugs like Prozac. This is not meant to
insult you but to tell you the truth rather than endulge any delusions
you may possess or have been fed by disreputable health professionals,
such as medical doctors who practice "enironmental" medicine and who
sell expensive products and services to "protect" people who think they
have multiple chemical sensitivities.

> I even am sensitive to the copper and other elements in certain vitamins etc.

It's unlikely you're so sensitive that normal amounts of those elements
found in typical environments would bother you.

> It kills my stomach and gives me diahreah.

It's probably something else doing that, such as intake of uncooked
foods (even fruits and vegetables can cause diarreah), but you should
have your water tested by a lab that isn't affiliated with any company
that sells water treatment equipment. Kits for this are sold at
hardware stores and home centers, and they're either prepaid for a
simple lead check, or you have to pay anywhere from $20-500 extra for
more complete tests.

> I am experiencing same symptoms with this GE under sink filter now. I am
> reading that they can give off extra nickel that can be bad for you.

Carbon water filters contain silver to prevent growth of bacteria, and
without this silver you could be poisoned by germs. While it's
possible to receive excessive amounts of silver from these filters,
it's unlikely, and any excess will not be at such a high level to be
highly toxic. But you can reduce the concentration of silver greatly
by running the water for 30-60 seconds before filling your glass, so
consider filling a pitcher and keeping it in the refrigerator.

> Can anybody PLEASE give me advice on a filter that will do its best to NOT
> leak the metals into the water that I will drink. I may go back to the
> waterpik filter that you just attach to the faucet.

A carbon filter will remove most organic chemicals, mercury, and some
lead, but if your water is also contaminated by excessive inorganics
(simple elements), a reverse osmosis filter is needed to remove them.

Good brands of filters include Ametek, Omni, and Sears Kenmore. Avoid
anything sold by comissioned salesmen.


Posted by Bob on July 28, 2006, 9:27 am
How is the GE SmartWater system as far as filters go?

http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SPECPAGE&SKU=GX1S50F&SITEID=DER&CHANNEL=CH0004&TABID=2&HEADER=N&FOOTER=N


>
> Julie wrote:
>
>> I have been through a few water filters recently. My stomach is very
>> sensitive to the heavy metals that can be a by product of the filtration
>> system from the cartridges.
>
> No, it's not. You have a hysterical disorder that can usually be
> remedies through therapy or drugs like Prozac. This is not meant to
> insult you but to tell you the truth rather than endulge any delusions
> you may possess or have been fed by disreputable health professionals,
> such as medical doctors who practice "enironmental" medicine and who
> sell expensive products and services to "protect" people who think they
> have multiple chemical sensitivities.
>
>> I even am sensitive to the copper and other elements in certain vitamins
>> etc.
>
> It's unlikely you're so sensitive that normal amounts of those elements
> found in typical environments would bother you.
>
>> It kills my stomach and gives me diahreah.
>
> It's probably something else doing that, such as intake of uncooked
> foods (even fruits and vegetables can cause diarreah), but you should
> have your water tested by a lab that isn't affiliated with any company
> that sells water treatment equipment. Kits for this are sold at
> hardware stores and home centers, and they're either prepaid for a
> simple lead check, or you have to pay anywhere from $20-500 extra for
> more complete tests.
>
>> I am experiencing same symptoms with this GE under sink filter now. I am
>> reading that they can give off extra nickel that can be bad for you.
>
> Carbon water filters contain silver to prevent growth of bacteria, and
> without this silver you could be poisoned by germs. While it's
> possible to receive excessive amounts of silver from these filters,
> it's unlikely, and any excess will not be at such a high level to be
> highly toxic. But you can reduce the concentration of silver greatly
> by running the water for 30-60 seconds before filling your glass, so
> consider filling a pitcher and keeping it in the refrigerator.
>
>> Can anybody PLEASE give me advice on a filter that will do its best to
>> NOT
>> leak the metals into the water that I will drink. I may go back to the
>> waterpik filter that you just attach to the faucet.
>
> A carbon filter will remove most organic chemicals, mercury, and some
> lead, but if your water is also contaminated by excessive inorganics
> (simple elements), a reverse osmosis filter is needed to remove them.
>
> Good brands of filters include Ametek, Omni, and Sears Kenmore. Avoid
> anything sold by comissioned salesmen.
>



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