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need help evaluating insulation estimate & proposal! floatee@gmail.com 06-01-2006
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Posted by floatee@gmail.com on June 1, 2006, 8:28 am
i need help evaluating a proposal i recently got to insulate the
converted attic on my one-story bungalow-type house, as well as the
walls of the house itself. the footprint of the place is 31' by 42'.
I live in the northeast. Here's what the contractor gave me:
remove/dispose of existing knee-wall insulation: $337
install r-13 fiberglass knee-wall insulation: 771
air seal knee-wall and floor: 125
insulate & lock 4 knee-wall doors: 187
air-seal sills, open bays, pipes, wires in & attic
& basement: 250
Dense pack cellulose r-19, 2nd floor slopes: 625
dense pack cellulose r-11, 2nd floor gable walls: 245
dense pack cellulose r-11, 1rst floor walls: 1221
overhead, profit, insurance: 673
total cost: 4,434

what do you think of this? are there any questions i can answer
that'll help you help me evaluate the proposal? and is it normal for a
contractor to break out "overhead, profit, insurance" the way this
fellow has?

one thing that concerns me is that the attic has absolutely ZERO
ventilation -- ie no vents anywhere -- and this contractor swears that
by his method of sealing up the converted space, i don't need any.
does that make sense?

thanks for any help you can give. i'm rather lost at sea in all this.


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on June 1, 2006, 8:51 am

floatee@gmail.com wrote:
> i need help evaluating a proposal i recently got to insulate the
> converted attic on my one-story bungalow-type house, as well as the
> walls of the house itself. the footprint of the place is 31' by 42'.
> I live in the northeast. Here's what the contractor gave me:
> remove/dispose of existing knee-wall insulation: $337
> install r-13 fiberglass knee-wall insulation: 771
> air seal knee-wall and floor: 125
> insulate & lock 4 knee-wall doors: 187
> air-seal sills, open bays, pipes, wires in & attic
> & basement: 250
> Dense pack cellulose r-19, 2nd floor slopes: 625
> dense pack cellulose r-11, 2nd floor gable walls: 245
> dense pack cellulose r-11, 1rst floor walls: 1221
> overhead, profit, insurance: 673
> total cost: 4,434
>
> what do you think of this? are there any questions i can answer
> that'll help you help me evaluate the proposal? and is it normal for a
> contractor to break out "overhead, profit, insurance" the way this
> fellow has?
>
> one thing that concerns me is that the attic has absolutely ZERO
> ventilation -- ie no vents anywhere -- and this contractor swears that
> by his method of sealing up the converted space, i don't need any.
> does that make sense?
>
> thanks for any help you can give. i'm rather lost at sea in all this.
\
DONT USE THAT CONTRACTOR !! with no ventilation it will ruin your roof
overheat your space and cause endless other hassles, obviously he
doesnt know what he is doing.

insulation is easy why not price the materials and get friends to help
you DIY


Posted by No on June 1, 2006, 9:15 am
floatee@gmail.com wrote:
> i need help evaluating a proposal i recently got to insulate the
> converted attic on my one-story bungalow-type house, as well as the
> walls of the house itself. the footprint of the place is 31' by 42'.
> I live in the northeast. Here's what the contractor gave me:
> remove/dispose of existing knee-wall insulation: $337
> install r-13 fiberglass knee-wall insulation: 771
> air seal knee-wall and floor: 125
> insulate & lock 4 knee-wall doors: 187
> air-seal sills, open bays, pipes, wires in & attic
> & basement: 250
> Dense pack cellulose r-19, 2nd floor slopes: 625
> dense pack cellulose r-11, 2nd floor gable walls: 245
> dense pack cellulose r-11, 1rst floor walls: 1221
> overhead, profit, insurance: 673
> total cost: 4,434
>
> what do you think of this? are there any questions i can answer
> that'll help you help me evaluate the proposal? and is it normal for a
> contractor to break out "overhead, profit, insurance" the way this
> fellow has?
>
> one thing that concerns me is that the attic has absolutely ZERO
> ventilation -- ie no vents anywhere -- and this contractor swears that
> by his method of sealing up the converted space, i don't need any.
> does that make sense?
>
> thanks for any help you can give. i'm rather lost at sea in all this.
>
Sounds really high to me plus ventilation is a good idea if its possible
in this space. At least something.

I finished the second floor of a cape cod style house, added 700 sq ft
of living space, a 40 foot shed dormer on back and 6' doghouse style
dormers on front. My space was a little smaller than yours. Because I
had some weird angles and odd spaces due to the dormers and knee walls I
was considering that spray foam. I brought a contractor in. He
recommended batts, like your considering and and gave me several good
reasons. I said thanks for your time and advice. The batts are on sale
at home cheapo and I'll just do it myself. He insisted on giving me an
estimate. His estimate was, drum roll please............ $800 and some
dollars. This was about 5 years ago. My materials alone from the borg
was $800. His estimate was an installed price. It was a no brainer, I
hired him on the spot. 3 guys, half day and the job was done. For me to
do it myself it would have taken 6plus trips to the store just for the
materials.

If they are close enough for you its http://www.synergyinsulation.com/

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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on June 1, 2006, 9:32 am

No wrote:
> floatee@gmail.com wrote:
> > i need help evaluating a proposal i recently got to insulate the
> > converted attic on my one-story bungalow-type house, as well as the
> > walls of the house itself. the footprint of the place is 31' by 42'.
> > I live in the northeast. Here's what the contractor gave me:
> > remove/dispose of existing knee-wall insulation: $337
> > install r-13 fiberglass knee-wall insulation: 771
> > air seal knee-wall and floor: 125
> > insulate & lock 4 knee-wall doors: 187
> > air-seal sills, open bays, pipes, wires in & attic
> > & basement: 250
> > Dense pack cellulose r-19, 2nd floor slopes: 625
> > dense pack cellulose r-11, 2nd floor gable walls: 245
> > dense pack cellulose r-11, 1rst floor walls: 1221
> > overhead, profit, insurance: 673
> > total cost: 4,434
> >
> > what do you think of this? are there any questions i can answer
> > that'll help you help me evaluate the proposal? and is it normal for a
> > contractor to break out "overhead, profit, insurance" the way this
> > fellow has?
> >
> > one thing that concerns me is that the attic has absolutely ZERO
> > ventilation -- ie no vents anywhere -- and this contractor swears that
> > by his method of sealing up the converted space, i don't need any.
> > does that make sense?
> >
> > thanks for any help you can give. i'm rather lost at sea in all this.
> >
> Sounds really high to me plus ventilation is a good idea if its possible
> in this space. At least something.
>
> I finished the second floor of a cape cod style house, added 700 sq ft
> of living space, a 40 foot shed dormer on back and 6' doghouse style
> dormers on front. My space was a little smaller than yours. Because I
> had some weird angles and odd spaces due to the dormers and knee walls I
> was considering that spray foam. I brought a contractor in. He
> recommended batts, like your considering and and gave me several good
> reasons. I said thanks for your time and advice. The batts are on sale
> at home cheapo and I'll just do it myself. He insisted on giving me an
> estimate. His estimate was, drum roll please............ $800 and some
> dollars. This was about 5 years ago. My materials alone from the borg
> was $800. His estimate was an installed price. It was a no brainer, I
> hired him on the spot. 3 guys, half day and the job was done. For me to
> do it myself it would have taken 6plus trips to the store just for the
> materials.
>
> If they are close enough for you its http://www.synergyinsulation.com/
>
> Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita
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Spray foam is likely a better choice as it minimizes air infiltration
and is its own vapor barrier while its R value is higher.


Posted by m Ransley on June 1, 2006, 1:55 pm
R11 for a ceiling is not much, you say converted, I asume its is
already drywalled and 3.5"airspace. There is a Polyurethane foam of
R7.2" sprayed in and Polyisocyanurate boards of R7.2" you could get R
25. But code for an attic or what you would need is apx R35 and optimal
is R60. Review your choises, celulose will also settle 15-20% so R value
installed wont be the same in a year. If it is still open the best would
be stud down the ceiling as much as possible then foam it. The issue of
airspace is another consideration. Being it is the attic ceiling and
heat rises your payback on heating costs make it worth your time to not
rush your decision. R11 is substandard for the ceiling and is not your
only solution.


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