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Posted by Jeff Wisnia on September 5, 2005, 3:24 pm
Betsy wrote:
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> My lawnmower has been on the fritz all summer. It started cutting out when
> it was running. I took it to the local neighborhood guy (he has a
> landscaping business & fixes mowers on the side) and he "tuned it up" and
> etc. and it ran fine. For awhile.
>
> Then the pull rope broke. I replaced it. It ran fine.
>
> Then a couple weeks later it became difficult to start. As in 15-20 pulls
> and a shoulder almost out of joint trying. And when it was turned off it
> wouldn't start again.
>
> I took it back. He said it was the starter, and replaced it. Cost $80 for
> that and a wheel lock which was broken.
>
> I took it home. I couldn't start it. I took it back. He said it was
> fine--he could start it on the third pull. Sometimes the first.
>
> Meantime I'd borrowed my neighbor's mower which was indeed possible for me
> to start on the first pull. In fact, I often didn't even have to pull the
> rope out all the way.
>
> I still can't start mine and am at my wits end. I think he doesn't know how
> to fix it, and doesn't see the problem. He says "its old" and like old
> things & people is now more difficult to start. I can't agree.
>
> Oh, and by the way, he let me try to start his lawn mower. I had no
> trouble. The rope gives a lot of resistance, but you can feel it engaging
> the motor. I don't get that kind of feedback from mine.
>
> Yet he insists there is nothing wrong with mine.
>
> Does anybody have any ideas before I take it to another repair shop and have
> to pay another $80? I am pretty strong, but unwilling to destroy my arm
> yanking on this crank.
>
>
When was the last time you replaced the spark plug? Maybe it's time to
do so again.
Does it smell "gassy" when you pull it over and it doesn't start? If it
doesn't by the third or fourth pull then if it has a choke, that isn't
working, or if it doesn't have one but uses a primer bulb you press two
or three times, that isn't doing it's thing.
Try buying a spray can of automobile "starter fluid" and spray some into
the air cleaner, then try and start it. If it fires right up, then you
have a choke or primer problem.
Let us know what works and doesn't,
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."
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Posted by Betsy on September 5, 2005, 3:58 pm
Thanks. It has a primer bulb. I push it about 10 times (at his
suggestion). I used to only have to push it 3 times. It smells gassy when
I pull it and it doesn't start. I have wondered if I flooded it, so have
come back and tried to start it without pushing the bulb. No dice.
He maintains the plug is fine. I witnessed him start it several times
today. He has no problem. But he is a lot stronger than me. But I used to
have no problem with it, either. I just don't get it.
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> Betsy wrote:
>> My lawnmower has been on the fritz all summer. It started cutting out
>> when it was running. I took it to the local neighborhood guy (he has a
>> landscaping business & fixes mowers on the side) and he "tuned it up" and
>> etc. and it ran fine. For awhile.
>> Then the pull rope broke. I replaced it. It ran fine.
>> Then a couple weeks later it became difficult to start. As in 15-20
>> pulls and a shoulder almost out of joint trying. And when it was turned
>> off it wouldn't start again.
>> I took it back. He said it was the starter, and replaced it. Cost $80
>> for that and a wheel lock which was broken.
>> I took it home. I couldn't start it. I took it back. He said it was
>> fine--he could start it on the third pull. Sometimes the first.
>> Meantime I'd borrowed my neighbor's mower which was indeed possible for
>> me to start on the first pull. In fact, I often didn't even have to pull
>> the rope out all the way.
>> I still can't start mine and am at my wits end. I think he doesn't know
>> how to fix it, and doesn't see the problem. He says "its old" and like
>> old things & people is now more difficult to start. I can't agree.
>> Oh, and by the way, he let me try to start his lawn mower. I had no
>> trouble. The rope gives a lot of resistance, but you can feel it
>> engaging the motor. I don't get that kind of feedback from mine.
>> Yet he insists there is nothing wrong with mine.
>> Does anybody have any ideas before I take it to another repair shop and
>> have to pay another $80? I am pretty strong, but unwilling to destroy my
>> arm yanking on this crank.
> When was the last time you replaced the spark plug? Maybe it's time to do
> so again.
> Does it smell "gassy" when you pull it over and it doesn't start? If it
> doesn't by the third or fourth pull then if it has a choke, that isn't
> working, or if it doesn't have one but uses a primer bulb you press two or
> three times, that isn't doing it's thing.
> Try buying a spray can of automobile "starter fluid" and spray some into
> the air cleaner, then try and start it. If it fires right up, then you
> have a choke or primer problem.
> Let us know what works and doesn't,
> Jeff
> --
> Jeffry Wisnia
> (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
> "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."
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Posted by Srgnt Billko on September 5, 2005, 10:01 pm
> Thanks. It has a primer bulb. I push it about 10 times (at his
> suggestion). I used to only have to push it 3 times. It smells gassy
> when I pull it and it doesn't start. I have wondered if I flooded it, so
> have come back and tried to start it without pushing the bulb. No dice.
Behind the bulb is a small tube that the gas flows through. These tubes
deteriorate. Replace it.
Also start with a full tank of gas - makes it easier to suck the gas up.
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> He maintains the plug is fine. I witnessed him start it several times
> today. He has no problem. But he is a lot stronger than me. But I used
> to have no problem with it, either. I just don't get it.
>> Betsy wrote:
>>> My lawnmower has been on the fritz all summer. It started cutting out
>>> when it was running. I took it to the local neighborhood guy (he has a
>>> landscaping business & fixes mowers on the side) and he "tuned it up"
>>> and etc. and it ran fine. For awhile.
>>> Then the pull rope broke. I replaced it. It ran fine.
>>> Then a couple weeks later it became difficult to start. As in 15-20
>>> pulls and a shoulder almost out of joint trying. And when it was turned
>>> off it wouldn't start again.
>>> I took it back. He said it was the starter, and replaced it. Cost $80
>>> for that and a wheel lock which was broken.
>>> I took it home. I couldn't start it. I took it back. He said it was
>>> fine--he could start it on the third pull. Sometimes the first.
>>> Meantime I'd borrowed my neighbor's mower which was indeed possible for
>>> me to start on the first pull. In fact, I often didn't even have to
>>> pull the rope out all the way.
>>> I still can't start mine and am at my wits end. I think he doesn't know
>>> how to fix it, and doesn't see the problem. He says "its old" and like
>>> old things & people is now more difficult to start. I can't agree.
>>> Oh, and by the way, he let me try to start his lawn mower. I had no
>>> trouble. The rope gives a lot of resistance, but you can feel it
>>> engaging the motor. I don't get that kind of feedback from mine.
>>> Yet he insists there is nothing wrong with mine.
>>> Does anybody have any ideas before I take it to another repair shop and
>>> have to pay another $80? I am pretty strong, but unwilling to destroy
>>> my arm yanking on this crank.
>> When was the last time you replaced the spark plug? Maybe it's time to do
>> so again.
>> Does it smell "gassy" when you pull it over and it doesn't start? If it
>> doesn't by the third or fourth pull then if it has a choke, that isn't
>> working, or if it doesn't have one but uses a primer bulb you press two
>> or three times, that isn't doing it's thing.
>> Try buying a spray can of automobile "starter fluid" and spray some into
>> the air cleaner, then try and start it. If it fires right up, then you
>> have a choke or primer problem.
>> Let us know what works and doesn't,
>> Jeff
>> --
>> Jeffry Wisnia
>> (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
>> "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."
>
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Posted by ameijers on September 5, 2005, 10:06 pm
> Thanks. It has a primer bulb. I push it about 10 times (at his
> suggestion). I used to only have to push it 3 times. It smells gassy
when
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> I pull it and it doesn't start. I have wondered if I flooded it, so have
> come back and tried to start it without pushing the bulb. No dice.
> He maintains the plug is fine. I witnessed him start it several times
> today. He has no problem. But he is a lot stronger than me. But I used
> have no problem with it, either. I just don't get it.
A plug is less than 5 bucks, and the wrench to change it yourself is another
5, if you don't have one already. Any of the big-box places will have them.
Need to know engine size, brand, and year. If you can see any numbers on the
old plug, write them down, or if you have a wrench, take the old plug with
you. I'd definitely try that before spending more money elsewhere. It can't
hurt, and it may help.
aem sends...
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Posted by Red Cloudİ on September 6, 2005, 5:19 pm
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>Thanks. It has a primer bulb. I push it about 10 times (at his
>suggestion). I used to only have to push it 3 times. It smells gassy when
>I pull it and it doesn't start. I have wondered if I flooded it, so have
>come back and tried to start it without pushing the bulb. No dice.
>He maintains the plug is fine. I witnessed him start it several times
>today. He has no problem. But he is a lot stronger than me. But I used to
>have no problem with it, either. I just don't get it.
It sure sounds like your mower has a lot of wear on it, and has lost a
little compression. Someone stronger could turn it over faster and get
it to start, where a weaker person can't spin it fast enough for that.
rusty redcloud
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> it was running. I took it to the local neighborhood guy (he has a
> landscaping business & fixes mowers on the side) and he "tuned it up" and
> etc. and it ran fine. For awhile.
>
> Then the pull rope broke. I replaced it. It ran fine.
>
> Then a couple weeks later it became difficult to start. As in 15-20 pulls
> and a shoulder almost out of joint trying. And when it was turned off it
> wouldn't start again.
>
> I took it back. He said it was the starter, and replaced it. Cost $80 for
> that and a wheel lock which was broken.
>
> I took it home. I couldn't start it. I took it back. He said it was
> fine--he could start it on the third pull. Sometimes the first.
>
> Meantime I'd borrowed my neighbor's mower which was indeed possible for me
> to start on the first pull. In fact, I often didn't even have to pull the
> rope out all the way.
>
> I still can't start mine and am at my wits end. I think he doesn't know how
> to fix it, and doesn't see the problem. He says "its old" and like old
> things & people is now more difficult to start. I can't agree.
>
> Oh, and by the way, he let me try to start his lawn mower. I had no
> trouble. The rope gives a lot of resistance, but you can feel it engaging
> the motor. I don't get that kind of feedback from mine.
>
> Yet he insists there is nothing wrong with mine.
>
> Does anybody have any ideas before I take it to another repair shop and have
> to pay another $80? I am pretty strong, but unwilling to destroy my arm
> yanking on this crank.
>
>