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need ideas for finding a plumbing leak. marson 07-17-2007
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Posted by marson on July 17, 2007, 8:47 pm
So here's the deal. I am building a new house which is basically
done, sheetrocked, finish floors, etc. The only problem is that we
can't get a plumbing final passed--seems like there is a fitting that
has come apart in the vent portion of the DWV. I am looking for some
brilliant ideas to find it, short of filling the system with water and
looking for the leak.. We have tried the "peppermint test" --dumping
peppermint down the vent, follwed by hot water, and can't smell
peppermint anywhere. We also tried a camera, but were unable to fish
it in the lines smaller than 3".

A few ideas I've had are--

1) devising a hillbilly smoke test--setting a shop vac to blow. Put a
little water in the tank, and add dry ice, and hook this up to pump
"smoke" into the system.

2) Hiring a guy with an infrared camera. Attach a heat gun to the
system. Pump heat and look for heat.

Anyone have any other ideas?


Posted by Tony Hwang on July 17, 2007, 8:56 pm
marson wrote:
> So here's the deal. I am building a new house which is basically
> done, sheetrocked, finish floors, etc. The only problem is that we
> can't get a plumbing final passed--seems like there is a fitting that
> has come apart in the vent portion of the DWV. I am looking for some
> brilliant ideas to find it, short of filling the system with water and
> looking for the leak.. We have tried the "peppermint test" --dumping
> peppermint down the vent, follwed by hot water, and can't smell
> peppermint anywhere. We also tried a camera, but were unable to fish
> it in the lines smaller than 3".
>
> A few ideas I've had are--
>
> 1) devising a hillbilly smoke test--setting a shop vac to blow. Put a
> little water in the tank, and add dry ice, and hook this up to pump
> "smoke" into the system.
>
> 2) Hiring a guy with an infrared camera. Attach a heat gun to the
> system. Pump heat and look for heat.
>
> Anyone have any other ideas?
>
Hi,
You're doing it backward. After plumbing is done, you had to check the
possible leak pressurizing the entire system with compressor. Your
plumber did not do it? Now retroactively, pros use super sensitive
microphone to pinpoint even a slightest leak. That's all I know.

Posted by Speedy Jim on July 17, 2007, 9:13 pm
marson wrote:

> So here's the deal. I am building a new house which is basically
> done, sheetrocked, finish floors, etc. The only problem is that we
> can't get a plumbing final passed--seems like there is a fitting that
> has come apart in the vent portion of the DWV. I am looking for some
> brilliant ideas to find it, short of filling the system with water and
> looking for the leak.. We have tried the "peppermint test" --dumping
> peppermint down the vent, follwed by hot water, and can't smell
> peppermint anywhere. We also tried a camera, but were unable to fish
> it in the lines smaller than 3".
>
> A few ideas I've had are--
>
> 1) devising a hillbilly smoke test--setting a shop vac to blow. Put a
> little water in the tank, and add dry ice, and hook this up to pump
> "smoke" into the system.
>
> 2) Hiring a guy with an infrared camera. Attach a heat gun to the
> system. Pump heat and look for heat.
>
> Anyone have any other ideas?
>

Pressurize with compressed air. ~20 psi. That requires tight
sealing of all openings. Listen for telltale whistle.
Or, as suggested, use a pro listening mic for even ultrasonic signals.

You could introduce faux smoke from a smoke generator or
"smoke" candles if it's likely you could see the smoke where
it exits. Or introduce mercaptan odorant (used in natural gas).

Jim

Posted by Oren on July 17, 2007, 9:40 pm
wrote:

> The only problem is that we
>can't get a plumbing final passed--seems like there is a fitting that
>has come apart in the vent portion of the DWV. I am looking for some
>brilliant ideas to find it, short of filling the system with water and
>looking for the leak.

Is this a two story home?

The first years or so of owning my last house; it seemed like on
Monday there was a wet carpet spot on the first floor. It so happens
the master tub drained right down/angled to the first floor. The bride
used to tub on Sunday evening.

A rubber sleeve was not coupled correctly to the ABS and the water
from the tub drained through the wall studs.. about four foot from the
floor.

You will need to open the sheetrock to fix this.

--
Oren

"The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!"

Posted by Kitep on July 17, 2007, 10:20 pm

> Is this a two story home?

My friend says all houses are two story homes. There's the story the
realtor tells you, and then there's the truth :) (Sorry, couldn't resist)



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