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Posted by on September 2, 2006, 2:37 pm
sosessyithurts wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/hbspa
>
> I've been reading up on the frenzy to pump the internet and HDTV
> through the power lines. It's already been successfully done in
> Virginia, and other test areas.
>
> This technology is going to do away with phone lines and cable lines.
>
> Now, are we going to have to slap an anti-trust suit on the power
> company
>
> AND IT'S ABOUT TIME THE IDIOTS PUSHED THE INTERNET THROUGH THE POWER
> GRID
>
> what was anyone ever thinking to pay ma bell $100.00 a month for a home
> and business line... a dedicated fax line etc..
>
> it's crazy!
>
> at last! cheap high speed internet
>
> HO HUM FOR VERIZONS FIBER OPTICS.. verizon has been furiously laying
> fiber optics across the country... they shoulda saw this technology
> coming.
> all that money wasted
>
> internet over the power grid should come in around 2.5 gb per second.
>
> if you can plug in a lamp, you can get high speed internet.
>
> woo hoo
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Posted by on September 2, 2006, 2:41 pm
Arghh! so much to say so little time to do it,
won't work as well as the fiber, I know the arguments and it just simly
won't. it's not secure, but then neither is cable and thats what most
people use now.
I have seen INET2 fiber in action and it is awesome. imagine downlading
a 2 hour full HDTV movie in less than 1 minute ate peak times, thats
where it's going and at peak use powerline systems won't do that
because the infrastructure isn't ther to support the 2.5G bandwidth to
every user, only to each distribution point.
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sosessyithurts wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/hbspa
>
> I've been reading up on the frenzy to pump the internet and HDTV
> through the power lines. It's already been successfully done in
> Virginia, and other test areas.
>
> This technology is going to do away with phone lines and cable lines.
>
> Now, are we going to have to slap an anti-trust suit on the power
> company
>
> AND IT'S ABOUT TIME THE IDIOTS PUSHED THE INTERNET THROUGH THE POWER
> GRID
>
> what was anyone ever thinking to pay ma bell $100.00 a month for a home
> and business line... a dedicated fax line etc..
>
> it's crazy!
>
> at last! cheap high speed internet
>
> HO HUM FOR VERIZONS FIBER OPTICS.. verizon has been furiously laying
> fiber optics across the country... they shoulda saw this technology
> coming.
> all that money wasted
>
> internet over the power grid should come in around 2.5 gb per second.
>
> if you can plug in a lamp, you can get high speed internet.
>
> woo hoo
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Posted by sosessyithurts on September 2, 2006, 3:06 pm
empress2...@wowway.com wrote:
> Arghh! so much to say so little time to do it,
>
> won't work as well as the fiber, I know the arguments and it just simly
> won't. it's not secure,
why does it need to be secure? hmmm? because of devious people?
have you EVER known a technology to fail because of evil doers?
this is not about good and evil this is about doability
you don't even factor the evil doers in... they have no lot in
technological advances, in fact technology makes it possible to get rid
of evil doers
like dna, mass thumb print searches, profiling etc...
> but then neither is cable and thats what most
> people use now.
>
> I have seen INET2 fiber in action and it is awesome. imagine downlading
> a 2 hour full HDTV movie in less than 1 minute ate peak times, thats
> where it's going and at peak use powerline systems won't do that
> because the infrastructure isn't ther to support the 2.5G bandwidth to
> every user, only to each distribution point.
yeah, verizon is already selling FOIS? to many folk
so you're saying the the current typical power grid cannot support 2.5G
to each customer at peak times where FO can?
I don't know how any of this works, i just see fat ass power lines
plus! if a new technology offers 2.5G in the front, they will do for
BPL what DSL did for a teeny weeny phone wire.
it's all about frequency.. i know for a fact that the powergrid can
handle a greater frequency than a teeny weeny wimpy crusty jittery
phone wire
GOD SPEED THE INTERNET
JESUS WHERE'S THE TYLENOL
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Posted by Oren on September 2, 2006, 3:19 pm
On 2 Sep 2006 11:41:10 -0700, empress2454@wowway.com wrote:
>Arghh! so much to say so little time to do it,
Really?
>won't work as well as the fiber, I know the arguments and it just simly
>won't. it's not secure, but then neither is cable and thats what most
>people use now.
Isn't that just brilliant fiber vs. BPL?
>I have seen INET2 fiber in action and it is awesome.
And where was that?
> imagine downlading a 2 hour full HDTV movie in less than 1 minute
I get an HDTV, by turning on the TV.
>because the infrastructure isn't ther to support the 2.5G bandwidth to
Again we don't need your HTML bullshit.
Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens
constantly."
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Posted by sosessyithurts on September 2, 2006, 3:37 pm
Oren wrote:
> Isn't that just brilliant fiber vs. BPL?
>
> >I have seen INET2 fiber in action and it is awesome.
>
> And where was that?
verizon will have fiber optics to my house by next year, this is
nothing new
many have been on f.o. for a long time...
> > imagine downlading a 2 hour full HDTV movie in less than 1 minute
>
> I get an HDTV, by turning on the TV.
>
> >because the infrastructure isn't ther to support the 2.5G bandwidth to
>
> Again we don't need your HTML bullshit.
uh.. that's not HTML, further he is saying mass network packet sniffing
units will have to be put into place, which is a short way of saying
Address translation is when a host starts an outbound connection, the
IP addresses in the internal network are translated into global
addresses. Address translation protects these addresses from visibility
on the external network. Different types of address translation are
used for this purpose.
and this is only to nail down security against the tyranies of evil
men...
further: Another concept that relates to address translation is
referred to as Bi-Directional NAT. Normal address translation allows an
address at an interface with a higher security level to be translated
to an address at an interface with a lower security level. With
Bi-Directional NAT, you can now translate an address at an interface
with a lower security level to an address at an interface with a higher
security level.
but this has been tried without much satisfaction, it's the old goin
cum bleed or blister approach, in the end they found it was not enough
juice for the squeeze...
just too many parameters to discuss right now like
Negotiating tunnel parameters-Addresses, algorithms, lifetime, and so
on.
Establishing tunnels according to the parameters.
Authenticating users-Making sure users are who they say they are, by
way of usernames, group names and passwords, and X.509 digital
certificates.
Establishing user access rights-Hours of access, connection time,
allowed destinations, allowed protocols, and so on.
Managing security keys for encryption and decryption.
Authenticating, encrypting, and decrypting data through the tunnel.
that sort of thing
but I think they can still make it work with web tv, that way you don't
have to get out of your rump sprung chair.
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