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old retaining wall pat 07-21-2006
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Posted by BobK207 on July 22, 2006, 3:04 am

hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> been there done that wall repair gig:(
>
> No doubt its old and someday may need replaced.
>
> since your a buyer get a few estimates on replacing it, and try getting
> something off on the cost of the home. the owner knows it has troubles.
>
> big $$$ are available with a bit of negoiating:)
>
> Say 3 contractors estimate 6 grand for replacement, start by asking for
> that much offL)
>
> no luck go to 50% or l;ower if need be,
>
> you have nothing to lose and can save lots of money:)
>
> The dirty secret is ALL RETAINING WALLS FAAIL EVENTUALLY!
>
> easiet thing to do iis tear out wall taper hill a little and plant
> groundcover. requires no futher work I have done that at 2 homes it
> works great no hill doesnt slide!
>
> anyhow for now use wall as bargaining point!


hallerb@aol.com wrote:

SNIP
The dirty secret is ALL RETAINING WALLS FAIL EVENTUALLY!
SNIP

Why do some people posting to this group keep posting this silly
notion?

I've seen retaing walls show distress with a year of
construction.....I've seen 50 & 80 year old walls as stable as the day
they were built

do you not trust in engineered structures?

The statement

ALL RETAINING WALLS FAIL EVENTUALLY makes as much sense as
ALL BRIDGES FAIL EVENTUALLY!

are talking about within ithe walls design life or are we considering
geologic time?

cheers
Bob


Posted by BobK207 on July 22, 2006, 3:04 am

hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> been there done that wall repair gig:(
>
> No doubt its old and someday may need replaced.
>
> since your a buyer get a few estimates on replacing it, and try getting
> something off on the cost of the home. the owner knows it has troubles.
>
> big $$$ are available with a bit of negoiating:)
>
> Say 3 contractors estimate 6 grand for replacement, start by asking for
> that much offL)
>
> no luck go to 50% or l;ower if need be,
>
> you have nothing to lose and can save lots of money:)
>
> The dirty secret is ALL RETAINING WALLS FAAIL EVENTUALLY!
>
> easiet thing to do iis tear out wall taper hill a little and plant
> groundcover. requires no futher work I have done that at 2 homes it
> works great no hill doesnt slide!
>
> anyhow for now use wall as bargaining point!


hallerb@aol.com wrote:

SNIP
The dirty secret is ALL RETAINING WALLS FAIL EVENTUALLY!
SNIP

Why do some people posting to this group keep posting this silly
notion?

I've seen retaing walls show distress with a year of
construction.....I've seen 50 & 80 year old walls as stable as the day
they were built

do you not trust in engineered structures?

The statement

ALL RETAINING WALLS FAIL EVENTUALLY makes as much sense as
ALL BRIDGES FAIL EVENTUALLY!

are talking about within ithe wall's design life or are we considering
geologic time?

cheers
Bob


Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on July 21, 2006, 6:23 pm

> Thanks for the feedback Edwin.
>
> Just to follow up, the wall is 1' on the level side of the street --
> but on the sloped side it might taper out to about 5'!
>
> I looks to be concrete or a concrete/stone combo, and I just saw a
> picture of it about 3 years ago and you can see that major touch-ups
> had been done around that time because they allmost white back then.
> It looked like there were a lot of major cracks, and the corner was
> almost completed touched up.
>
> Any further thoughts?
>
> -Pat

If there are cracks, but the wall is reasonably straight, it should still
not be a deal breaker, IMO. If it is being pushed far out from plumb, it
will need attention sooner. It may have to be removed, deeper better
footings put in, then rebuilt. That would be costly and is a consideration
for the overall value (price) of the house. Probably be best to get
someone to take a look at it if that is the case.



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on July 21, 2006, 6:29 pm
as a buyer GET A HOME INSPECTION! IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY!

it will help cut the sales price since on a older home no doubt theres
lots of troubles. Its better you aware of major defects.

yes it will be a big issue on a home inspection


Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on July 21, 2006, 10:53 pm

> as a buyer GET A HOME INSPECTION! IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY!
>
> it will help cut the sales price since on a older home no doubt theres
> lots of troubles. Its better you aware of major defects.

Maybe, maybe not. A good home inspection will point out problems and
potential problems. That does not mean the owner will reduce the price. The
buy still has the option of just passing on to another house. There are
plenty of complaints that inspectors missed serious problems too, and there
is little or no recourse. Sometimes you are better off having Uncle Bob go
through the house with you.



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