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outbuilding electrical disconnect powercat 08-27-2006
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Posted by on August 27, 2006, 1:18 pm
NEC requires an electrical disconnect at the service entrance to an
outbuilding when fed from a main located elsewhere on the property. In
addition to the two hots, the subpanel in the separate structure need
to have the neutral and the ground also connected to the main panel (in
most areas of the US this means whether or not you have a separate
grounding point for the subpanel).

Now here's my question. In the newest NEC book from 2005 there is some
screwy language about being able to disconnect all of the wiring at the
mechanical disconnect. I showed this to my friend a retired
electrician who wonders if it was written in English.

Has anyone seen a mechanical disconnect that is a true (i.e. four wire)
disconnect for a structure? All the ones I have ever seen are
three-wire disconnects and don't disconnect the grounding portion.


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on August 27, 2006, 1:49 pm
why would anyone want to disconnect a ground?

sounds like a grossly bad idea........


Posted by RBM on August 27, 2006, 3:21 pm
You would not disconnect the "grounding" conductors, however there are
certain "hazardous" locations where you would disconnect the "grounded"
conductors along with the ungrounded conductors.


> NEC requires an electrical disconnect at the service entrance to an
> outbuilding when fed from a main located elsewhere on the property. In
> addition to the two hots, the subpanel in the separate structure need
> to have the neutral and the ground also connected to the main panel (in
> most areas of the US this means whether or not you have a separate
> grounding point for the subpanel).
>
> Now here's my question. In the newest NEC book from 2005 there is some
> screwy language about being able to disconnect all of the wiring at the
> mechanical disconnect. I showed this to my friend a retired
> electrician who wonders if it was written in English.
>
> Has anyone seen a mechanical disconnect that is a true (i.e. four wire)
> disconnect for a structure? All the ones I have ever seen are
> three-wire disconnects and don't disconnect the grounding portion.
>



Posted by Thomas D. Horne, FF EMT on August 27, 2006, 9:58 pm
powercat@verizon.net wrote:
> NEC requires an electrical disconnect at the service entrance to an
> outbuilding when fed from a main located elsewhere on the property. In
> addition to the two hots, the subpanel in the separate structure need
> to have the neutral and the ground also connected to the main panel (in
> most areas of the US this means whether or not you have a separate
> grounding point for the subpanel).
>
> Now here's my question. In the newest NEC book from 2005 there is some
> screwy language about being able to disconnect all of the wiring at the
> mechanical disconnect. I showed this to my friend a retired
> electrician who wonders if it was written in English.
>
> Has anyone seen a mechanical disconnect that is a true (i.e. four wire)
> disconnect for a structure? All the ones I have ever seen are
> three-wire disconnects and don't disconnect the grounding portion.
>

The code only requires the simultaneous disconnection of all UNGROUNDED
conductors. It specifically forbids the disconnection of the Grounded
Current Carrying Conductor unless that disconnecting means will also
simultaneously open the ungrounded conductors as well.
--
Tom Horne

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We're just working men and woman most remarkable like you.

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