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permanent connection of propane grill to city gas? Nate Nagel 05-04-2008
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Posted by Robert Neville on May 5, 2008, 9:30 pm


>It is a bad idea. Propane burns hotter than natural gas, so the orifices in
>the burners are different. The connectors are different too. You'll need a
>new grill to hook it up to gas. Or, -possibly- they sell conversion kits.

The age of the grill shouldn't matter. The only thing that is different is the
jet orifice size and those are standard pipe thread in the US. Would its imagine
the same in the UK. It's been a year or so since I hooked the last one up, but
IIRC the flex hose just has standard flare connectors on both ends.

>
>My Weber is nat. gas (was that way from the get-go, wheels and all) and
>hooked up via the supplied rubber hose to the gas pipe. I'm sure this is
>pretty common so there shouldn't be any code concerns there. Now, some
>cities ban the use of grills right next to the house.

The only code concerns I recall is that a) you have to have a shutoff where the
flex hose attaches to the house pipe, and b) that the grill not be located
underneath any portion of the house overhang and that there was some minimum
clearance between the grill and the house wall.

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on May 5, 2008, 9:45 pm

> The age of the grill shouldn't matter. The only thing that is different is
> the
> jet orifice size and those are standard pipe thread in the US. Would its
> imagine
> the same in the UK. It's been a year or so since I hooked the last one up,
> but
> IIRC the flex hose just has standard flare connectors on both ends.

Regulator is different also. Propane usually has about 11" WC while NG is
about 4"



Posted by Robert Neville on May 5, 2008, 11:40 pm


>Regulator is different also. Propane usually has about 11" WC while NG is
>about 4"

Would you need a regulator separate from the one at the entrance to the house?
Last one I did I went to a propane house supply so it didn't need a regulator as
the whole house was already at the correct pressure. I would think that NG would
be the same. The reason you have a regulator on the tank is because of the
liquid to gas conversion in the tank.

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on May 5, 2008, 9:46 pm

> It is a bad idea. Propane burns hotter than natural gas, so the orifices
> in the burners are different. The connectors are different too. You'll
> need a new grill to hook it up to gas. Or, -possibly- they sell
> conversion kits.
>

NOT a bad idea, it just has to be done properly and it is done every day.
Most every brand has kits available for the change.



Posted by Doug Brown on May 4, 2008, 3:38 pm
Well the best answers likely are;

1) Call Weber and see what they say, or go to their web site.
and
2) Call your local gas company to see what their rules are.

But if I understand correctly you cannot use natural gas in a propane grill.
You would need a conversion kit of some kind.

> Hi,
>
> I'm sure that I just got poked in the no-no spot. SWMBO brought home some
> trout today and informed me that we would be grilling it later, would I
> please pick up a new propane tank? After visiting two Orange-Colored
> Stores and filling myself with the usual loathing and hatred of my fellow
> man (not even determining if they did, in fact, sell propane, as I wasn't
> able to accomplish my initial goal of finding some new watering cans, and
> wasn't able to find a sales associate to assist me - even after waiting at
> the service desk of the second store for a good ten minutes) I finally
> gave up and drove into Arlington to a small hardware store that I knew
> sold propane. I wanted to purchase a new tank, as I had only one and it
> was almost empty, I figured if I had two tanks then I wouldn't ever have
> to worry about running out and would also be able to get full use out of
> them and not have to return a tank with useful gas left in it for fear of
> running out mid-grill.
>
> Well, first I was informed that the "quick disconnect" connector on my old
> tank was obsolete, so I could either get on a waiting list that they would
> call when they finally got some tanks in with quick disconnects, or else
> buy a new regulator/hose assembly for $20-something. So I bought the
> hose, because I figured if there was a waiting list now and the connector
> was obsolete, the situation was only going to get worse in the future. I
> didn't even ask how much the new tank was... it was *SEVENTY-FIVE
> DOLLARS!* Well, being the sort of guy that appreciates a good grilled
> trout, and not knowing anywhere else likely to be open on a Sunday that
> sold propane, I bought it, but I still feel vaguely violated.
>
> So the question is kind of a two-parter. First, is it possible to convert
> an old Weber propane grill to safely operate on natural gas as delivered
> to one's house? If so, is it legal to pipe the gas outside the house,
> e.g. to a connection on an outside wall on the deck, so that I could hook
> up my grill to it?
>
> thanks,
>
> nate
>
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