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pressure testing a house gas line ? Tim 04-24-2008
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on April 24, 2008, 9:31 pm
> Tim wrote:
> > I am going to add a short run from my main inside gas line to service
> > a new cooktop. =EF=BF=BDIt will only be about a 10 ft run...the service =
line
> > is in the ceiling a little over from the range location. =EF=BF=BDQuesti=
on
> > is...do you normally test the new line from the meter to the rest of
> > the system...and what is the normal pressure in an inside gas line
> > (black pipe throughout)...looks linke am 1" or 1 1/4" run ?
>
> > I used to work for the gas company in Chicago a long time ago when I
> > was out of school for awhile...we laid...welded...and tested hundreds
> > of 2" lines in the time I was there. =EF=BF=BDI would rather pressure te=
st
> > than use the old soapy bubble test.
>
> > Any additional help/guidance will be appreciated.
>
> Blow up a balloon. Put it on the pipe. Does the balloon shrink?
>
> The pressure from the balloon will be greater than anything the pipe will
> ever see.

gas line pressure a few ounces max.

avoid ever pressure testing old lines, as it tends to cause leaks

Posted by Sac Dave on April 24, 2008, 9:40 pm

> Tim wrote:
>> I am going to add a short run from my main inside gas line to service
>> a new cooktop. It will only be about a 10 ft run...the service line
>> is in the ceiling a little over from the range location. Question
>> is...do you normally test the new line from the meter to the rest of
>> the system...and what is the normal pressure in an inside gas line
>> (black pipe throughout)...looks linke am 1" or 1 1/4" run ?
>>
>> I used to work for the gas company in Chicago a long time ago when I
>> was out of school for awhile...we laid...welded...and tested hundreds
>> of 2" lines in the time I was there. I would rather pressure test
>> than use the old soapy bubble test.
>>
>> Any additional help/guidance will be appreciated.
>>
>
>
> Blow up a balloon. Put it on the pipe. Does the balloon shrink?
>
> The pressure from the balloon will be greater than anything the pipe will
> ever see.


I'd love to see a building inspector face looking at that. You know your
talking about a gas line in a house , a leaky gas line can cause an
explosion ( happens all the time ) They have proper test for a reason I
don't think a balloon in the end of a pipe is very good advice.



Posted by HeyBub on April 25, 2008, 7:03 am
Sac Dave wrote:
>>> Any additional help/guidance will be appreciated.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Blow up a balloon. Put it on the pipe. Does the balloon shrink?
>>
>> The pressure from the balloon will be greater than anything the pipe
>> will ever see.
>
>
> I'd love to see a building inspector face looking at that. You know
> your talking about a gas line in a house , a leaky gas line can cause
> an explosion ( happens all the time ) They have proper test for a
> reason I don't think a balloon in the end of a pipe is very good
> advice.

I didn't suggest the balloon for the benefit of the building inspector; I
suggested it for the homeowner.

If you think it's an unacceptable, goofey, idea (and I agree on the goofey
part), what is your suggestion for a 1-2oz pressure test?

Didn't think so.



Posted by George on April 25, 2008, 7:22 am
HeyBub wrote:
> Sac Dave wrote:
>>>> Any additional help/guidance will be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Blow up a balloon. Put it on the pipe. Does the balloon shrink?
>>>
>>> The pressure from the balloon will be greater than anything the pipe
>>> will ever see.
>>
>> I'd love to see a building inspector face looking at that. You know
>> your talking about a gas line in a house , a leaky gas line can cause
>> an explosion ( happens all the time ) They have proper test for a
>> reason I don't think a balloon in the end of a pipe is very good
>> advice.
>
> I didn't suggest the balloon for the benefit of the building inspector; I
> suggested it for the homeowner.
>
> If you think it's an unacceptable, goofey, idea (and I agree on the goofey
> part), what is your suggestion for a 1-2oz pressure test?
>
> Didn't think so.
>
>
Possibly you don't understand the idea of a pressure test. You test a
gas line using a pressure much higher than the service pressure but
still well within the pressure rating of the components to force
marginal joints to reveal themselves.

Posted by BillGill on April 25, 2008, 9:04 am
George wrote:
> HeyBub wrote:
>> Sac Dave wrote:
>>>>> Any additional help/guidance will be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blow up a balloon. Put it on the pipe. Does the balloon shrink?
>>>>
>>>> The pressure from the balloon will be greater than anything the pipe
>>>> will ever see.
>>>
>>> I'd love to see a building inspector face looking at that. You know
>>> your talking about a gas line in a house , a leaky gas line can cause
>>> an explosion ( happens all the time ) They have proper test for a
>>> reason I don't think a balloon in the end of a pipe is very good
>>> advice.
>>
>> I didn't suggest the balloon for the benefit of the building
>> inspector; I suggested it for the homeowner.
>>
>> If you think it's an unacceptable, goofey, idea (and I agree on the
>> goofey part), what is your suggestion for a 1-2oz pressure test?
>>
>> Didn't think so.
>>
> Possibly you don't understand the idea of a pressure test. You test a
> gas line using a pressure much higher than the service pressure but
> still well within the pressure rating of the components to force
> marginal joints to reveal themselves.

About 15 years ago they replaced my gas meter. When I got home from
work there was a note on my door for me to call and somebody would come
out and turn the gas back on. When the tech got there he tested the
line first. He hooked a manometer to the line. Then he blew into a
tube he hooked up to it. When the manometer dropped back down he
started looking for the leak. The leak turned out to be in the meter
itself. But the test was not some huge super-dooper thing. Just as much
pressure as he could get into the line with one breath.

Bill

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