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Posted by mike.goodman_@gmail.com on July 18, 2006, 7:25 am
The microwave and the range hood are on two different circuits in the
kitchen.
I've tested all of the other outlets in the house and they all work
(circuit breaker to the hood was off).
mike
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> That's because the neutral isn't IN the outlet, and it's not made by
> the outlet. It's conceivable that the outlet could break, but the
> neutral extends from the hole that the neutral prong of the plug goes
> into, through the outlet, through the connection with the
> usually-white wire, all the way to the breaker box, and from there to
> the power company iirc. So there are a lot more places for the
> neutral to get interrupted than just in the outlet. (But if you saved
> the outlet you took out, you can use it when you know more and want to
> put an added outlet in somewhere.)
> Since the rest of your house works, I assume the problem is somewhere
> between the connection at the outlet and the other end at the breaker
> box. It may go through other outlets on the way, even if you have
> nothing plugged into them.
> My range hood is on the same circuit as the dining room ceiling light,
> because the switch for that light is on the other side of the same
> wall, about 4 feet away. I think other things are on the same
> circuit, but I don't know what they are, because I"ve never needed to
> know.
> I think there would be more than a range hood which draws an amp or so
> iirc, on a circuit that can provide 20 amps. Wait, you're saying the
> microwaave is on the same circuit as the range hoood. Are they one
> thing? If not do they use the same receptacle, outlet? Regardless,
> the problem now is to fix the neutral, unrelated to the microwave or
> the range hood.
> >Any suggestions?
> >Thanks for your time,
> >Mike
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on July 18, 2006, 9:09 am
white wire on neutral busbar in main breaker cabine may be lose.
had that happen here. screw just a half turn lose
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Posted by mm on July 18, 2006, 1:47 pm
On 18 Jul 2006 04:25:22 -0700, "mike.goodman_@gmail.com"
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>The microwave and the range hood are on two different circuits in the
>kitchen.
Then why did you bring up the label on the range hood breaker that
says "microwave" if the microwave is really on a different circuit?
Just to waste my time?
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>I've tested all of the other outlets in the house and they all work
>(circuit breaker to the hood was off).
>mike
>> That's because the neutral isn't IN the outlet, and it's not made by
>> the outlet. It's conceivable that the outlet could break, but the
>> neutral extends from the hole that the neutral prong of the plug goes
>> into, through the outlet, through the connection with the
>> usually-white wire, all the way to the breaker box, and from there to
>> the power company iirc. So there are a lot more places for the
>> neutral to get interrupted than just in the outlet. (But if you saved
>> the outlet you took out, you can use it when you know more and want to
>> put an added outlet in somewhere.)
>> Since the rest of your house works, I assume the problem is somewhere
>> between the connection at the outlet and the other end at the breaker
>> box. It may go through other outlets on the way, even if you have
>> nothing plugged into them.
>> My range hood is on the same circuit as the dining room ceiling light,
>> because the switch for that light is on the other side of the same
>> wall, about 4 feet away. I think other things are on the same
>> circuit, but I don't know what they are, because I"ve never needed to
>> know.
>> I think there would be more than a range hood which draws an amp or so
>> iirc, on a circuit that can provide 20 amps. Wait, you're saying the
>> microwaave is on the same circuit as the range hoood. Are they one
>> thing? If not do they use the same receptacle, outlet? Regardless,
>> the problem now is to fix the neutral, unrelated to the microwave or
>> the range hood.
>> >Any suggestions?
>> >Thanks for your time,
>> >Mike
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Posted by mike.goodman_@gmail.com on July 18, 2006, 10:44 pm
No intentions of wasting anyone's time. Your explanaition was very
thorough, thanks.
I'm fairly certain there's nothing else on the circuit so I'll get the
panel checked out.
mm wrote:
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> On 18 Jul 2006 04:25:22 -0700, "mike.goodman_@gmail.com"
> >The microwave and the range hood are on two different circuits in the
> >kitchen.
> Then why did you bring up the label on the range hood breaker that
> says "microwave" if the microwave is really on a different circuit?
> Just to waste my time?
> >I've tested all of the other outlets in the house and they all work
> >(circuit breaker to the hood was off).
> >mike
> >> That's because the neutral isn't IN the outlet, and it's not made by
> >> the outlet. It's conceivable that the outlet could break, but the
> >> neutral extends from the hole that the neutral prong of the plug goes
> >> into, through the outlet, through the connection with the
> >> usually-white wire, all the way to the breaker box, and from there to
> >> the power company iirc. So there are a lot more places for the
> >> neutral to get interrupted than just in the outlet. (But if you saved
> >> the outlet you took out, you can use it when you know more and want to
> >> put an added outlet in somewhere.)
> >> Since the rest of your house works, I assume the problem is somewhere
> >> between the connection at the outlet and the other end at the breaker
> >> box. It may go through other outlets on the way, even if you have
> >> nothing plugged into them.
> >> My range hood is on the same circuit as the dining room ceiling light,
> >> because the switch for that light is on the other side of the same
> >> wall, about 4 feet away. I think other things are on the same
> >> circuit, but I don't know what they are, because I"ve never needed to
> >> know.
> >> I think there would be more than a range hood which draws an amp or so
> >> iirc, on a circuit that can provide 20 amps. Wait, you're saying the
> >> microwaave is on the same circuit as the range hoood. Are they one
> >> thing? If not do they use the same receptacle, outlet? Regardless,
> >> the problem now is to fix the neutral, unrelated to the microwave or
> >> the range hood.
> >> >Any suggestions?
> >> >Thanks for your time,
> >> >Mike
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> the outlet. It's conceivable that the outlet could break, but the
> neutral extends from the hole that the neutral prong of the plug goes
> into, through the outlet, through the connection with the
> usually-white wire, all the way to the breaker box, and from there to
> the power company iirc. So there are a lot more places for the
> neutral to get interrupted than just in the outlet. (But if you saved
> the outlet you took out, you can use it when you know more and want to
> put an added outlet in somewhere.)
> Since the rest of your house works, I assume the problem is somewhere
> between the connection at the outlet and the other end at the breaker
> box. It may go through other outlets on the way, even if you have
> nothing plugged into them.
> My range hood is on the same circuit as the dining room ceiling light,
> because the switch for that light is on the other side of the same
> wall, about 4 feet away. I think other things are on the same
> circuit, but I don't know what they are, because I"ve never needed to
> know.
> I think there would be more than a range hood which draws an amp or so
> iirc, on a circuit that can provide 20 amps. Wait, you're saying the
> microwaave is on the same circuit as the range hoood. Are they one
> thing? If not do they use the same receptacle, outlet? Regardless,
> the problem now is to fix the neutral, unrelated to the microwave or
> the range hood.
> >Any suggestions?
> >Thanks for your time,
> >Mike