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protecting asphalt roof shingles SteveB 06-13-2008
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Posted by SteveB on June 14, 2008, 3:52 pm
HeyBub wrote:

> SteveB wrote:
> > How to protect asphalt roof shingles came up at the /Trinity Habitat
> > for Humanity/ meeting last night.
> >
> > After the roof is on, we have to send volunteers topside to install
> > corbels, touch up paint, etc. Shoes on the shingles frequently
> > damage the shingles, knocking off enough grit that the inspector
> > requires replacement.
> >
> > Of course, the obvious answer is don't put the shingles on so soon,
> > but that ain't gonna happen. The house has to be dried in, and
> > theres _always_ one more punch-list item up top. (Our motto is, "We
> > do it right the last time.")
> >
> > Who has suggestions for how to protect asphalt shingles from damage
> > by shoes in the Texas heat?
>
> What kind of damage? The roof is expected (I hope) to survive decades
> of rain, hail, birds, branches, golf balls, cats, raccoons, and (at
> Christmas) reindeer.
>
> Besides, assuming the roofers start at the edge and work up, if they
> don't walk on the roof, how do they get down? Is this the outside
> equivalent of painting ones self into a corner?

Shingles are installed by a contractor early in the construction
process to get the house "dried in" so water-sensitive work can start
and inspections can start.

It's cheaper to have a contractor put on the roof. The work is done in
a day; it's done right; there's a warranty; and it's cheaper because
our liability insurance rate goes down.

Texas heat gets into the 90s by mid-morning. Sometimes it doesn't get
_out_ of the 90s overnight. This causes the asphalt in the shingles to
be soft and the granules to come loose easily if stepped on roughly.
The contractors obviously know what they're doing. If _they_ screw up
the shingles, they have to replace them themselves.

Because all work is done by volunteers (except for flatwork, roofing,
wallboard, and licensed trades), expertise is lacking. I can only tell
someone to walk lightly on the shingles; I can't stand by and make sure
they do it.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

AppliancePartsPros.com, Inc.
Posted by Oren on June 14, 2008, 4:06 pm
wrote:

>HeyBub wrote:
>
>> SteveB wrote:
>> > How to protect asphalt roof shingles came up at the /Trinity Habitat
>> > for Humanity/ meeting last night.
>> >
>> > After the roof is on, we have to send volunteers topside to install
>> > corbels, touch up paint, etc. Shoes on the shingles frequently
>> > damage the shingles, knocking off enough grit that the inspector
>> > requires replacement.
>> >
>> > Of course, the obvious answer is don't put the shingles on so soon,
>> > but that ain't gonna happen. The house has to be dried in, and
>> > theres _always_ one more punch-list item up top. (Our motto is, "We
>> > do it right the last time.")
>> >
>> > Who has suggestions for how to protect asphalt shingles from damage
>> > by shoes in the Texas heat?
>>
>> What kind of damage? The roof is expected (I hope) to survive decades
>> of rain, hail, birds, branches, golf balls, cats, raccoons, and (at
>> Christmas) reindeer.
>>
>> Besides, assuming the roofers start at the edge and work up, if they
>> don't walk on the roof, how do they get down? Is this the outside
>> equivalent of painting ones self into a corner?
>
>Shingles are installed by a contractor early in the construction
>process to get the house "dried in" so water-sensitive work can start
>and inspections can start.
>
>It's cheaper to have a contractor put on the roof. The work is done in
>a day; it's done right; there's a warranty; and it's cheaper because
>our liability insurance rate goes down.
>
>Texas heat gets into the 90s by mid-morning. Sometimes it doesn't get
>_out_ of the 90s overnight. This causes the asphalt in the shingles to
>be soft and the granules to come loose easily if stepped on roughly.
>The contractors obviously know what they're doing. If _they_ screw up
>the shingles, they have to replace them themselves.
>
>Because all work is done by volunteers (except for flatwork, roofing,
>wallboard, and licensed trades), expertise is lacking. I can only tell
>someone to walk lightly on the shingles; I can't stand by and make sure
>they do it.

Why are they up there, on the shingles? Roofing is under contract,
right?

I'm in the Mohave desert, at about triple digits this week, and people
are walking on asphalt shingles. I think the hype of lost grit is
over rated. Walk gently, my friend:)

Posted by HeyBub on June 14, 2008, 5:40 pm
Oren wrote:
>
> I'm in the Mohave desert, at about triple digits this week, and people
> are walking on asphalt shingles. I think the hype of lost grit is
> over rated. Walk gently, my friend:)

I agree. I had a new roof installed, oh, about eight years ago. I still see
"sand" in the gutters even though no one has walked on the roof (except
cats, birds, opossums, an occasional raccoon, and, at Christmas, reindeer).

I agree that walking on a roof should be kept to a minimum, but the real
damage from such would be on an OLD roof where the shingles are brittle. I
would think that new, hot, shingles would be sort of "self-healing."



Posted by Oren on June 14, 2008, 6:11 pm
wrote:

>Oren wrote:
>>
>> I'm in the Mohave desert, at about triple digits this week, and people
>> are walking on asphalt shingles. I think the hype of lost grit is
>> over rated. Walk gently, my friend:)
>
>I agree. I had a new roof installed, oh, about eight years ago. I still see
>"sand" in the gutters even though no one has walked on the roof (except
>cats, birds, opossums, an occasional raccoon, and, at Christmas, reindeer).
>
Sparrows can only eat so much sand; the real reason they land, and
peck.

>I agree that walking on a roof should be kept to a minimum, but the real
>damage from such would be on an OLD roof where the shingles are brittle. I
>would think that new, hot, shingles would be sort of "self-healing."
>

That "self- healing" is said too take place during high temps. Save
the grit from the package and then toss it on the melt (joke). Never
walk a "cow path" on the shingles. roofing nails can seal on the
heated shingle...best I can tell.

Posted by SteveB on June 14, 2008, 8:59 pm
Oren wrote:

> wrote:
>
> > HeyBub wrote:
> >
> >> SteveB wrote:
> >> > How to protect asphalt roof shingles came up at the /Trinity
> Habitat >> > for Humanity/ meeting last night.
> >> >
> >> > After the roof is on, we have to send volunteers topside to
> install >> > corbels, touch up paint, etc. Shoes on the shingles
> frequently >> > damage the shingles, knocking off enough grit that
> the inspector >> > requires replacement.
> >> >
> >> > Of course, the obvious answer is don't put the shingles on so
> soon, >> > but that ain't gonna happen. The house has to be dried in,
> and >> > theres always one more punch-list item up top. (Our motto
> is, "We >> > do it right the last time.")
> >> >
> >> > Who has suggestions for how to protect asphalt shingles from
> damage >> > by shoes in the Texas heat?
> >>
> >> What kind of damage? The roof is expected (I hope) to survive
> decades >> of rain, hail, birds, branches, golf balls, cats,
> raccoons, and (at >> Christmas) reindeer.
> >>
> >> Besides, assuming the roofers start at the edge and work up, if
> they >> don't walk on the roof, how do they get down? Is this the
> outside >> equivalent of painting ones self into a corner?
> >
> > Shingles are installed by a contractor early in the construction
> > process to get the house "dried in" so water-sensitive work can
> > start and inspections can start.
> >
> > It's cheaper to have a contractor put on the roof. The work is done
> > in a day; it's done right; there's a warranty; and it's cheaper
> > because our liability insurance rate goes down.
> >
> > Texas heat gets into the 90s by mid-morning. Sometimes it doesn't
> > get _out_ of the 90s overnight. This causes the asphalt in the
> > shingles to be soft and the granules to come loose easily if
> > stepped on roughly. The contractors obviously know what they're
> > doing. If they screw up the shingles, they have to replace them
> > themselves.
> >
> > Because all work is done by volunteers (except for flatwork,
> > roofing, wallboard, and licensed trades), expertise is lacking. I
> > can only tell someone to walk lightly on the shingles; I can't
> > stand by and make sure they do it.
>
> Why are they up there, on the shingles? Roofing is under contract,
> right?
>
> I'm in the Mohave desert, at about triple digits this week, and people
> are walking on asphalt shingles. I think the hype of lost grit is
> over rated. Walk gently, my friend:)

The volunteers are not doing roofing. They're installing trim and
fixing punch-list items. There are _always_ lots of punch-list items.
("We do it right the last time.")

As far as the shingles go, all I can tell you is that walking on them
by people who aren't careful sometimes causes enough damage that the
roof fails a final inspection. Besides, the rule for making punch-lists
is, "How would you want it if it were your house?")

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

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