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Posted by George Abbot on June 17, 2008, 3:40 pm
I would like to refinish my existing water based poly kitchen floor without
having to strip it down to bare
wood. There are some places were the wear is heavy but most everywhere else,
where there is less or no traffic,
is fine. I will stay with water based polyurethane to re-finish.
I read that it can be done w/o sanding down to bare wood, but not if there were
some cleaners used on the floor.
My wife likes Murphy's oil soap, so it was used but only a few times. It may be
one of the bad guys. Can it be
cleaned off?
Any suggestions appreciated on how to proceed.
GA
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Posted by ransley on June 17, 2008, 6:14 pm
> I would like to refinish my existing water based poly kitchen floor withou=
t having to strip it down to bare
> wood. There are some places were the wear is heavy but most everywhere els=
e, where there is less or no traffic,
> is fine. I will stay with water based polyurethane to re-finish.
>
> I read that it can be done w/o sanding down to bare wood, but not if there=
were some cleaners used on the floor.
> My wife likes Murphy's oil soap, so it was used but only a few times. It m=
ay be one of the bad guys. Can it be
> cleaned off?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated on how to proceed.
>
> GA
If any areas are bare wood a new coat wont do much to make it look
great. Murphys oil will wash off, ask the polyurethane co what to use,
but id guess a strong soap that leaves no residue like tsp, You need
to lightly sand everything anyway.
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Posted by SteveB on June 17, 2008, 8:48 pm
George Abbot wrote:
> I would like to refinish my existing water based poly kitchen floor
> without having to strip it down to bare wood. There are some places
> were the wear is heavy but most everywhere else, where there is less
> or no traffic, is fine. I will stay with water based polyurethane to
> re-finish.
>
> I read that it can be done w/o sanding down to bare wood, but not if
> there were some cleaners used on the floor. My wife likes Murphy's
> oil soap, so it was used but only a few times. It may be one of the
> bad guys. Can it be cleaned off?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated on how to proceed.
Check out the SandFree chain. They use solvents to dissolve the
existing finish, then let it recure, all handled with a walk-behind
machine. I've done some floor repair subcontracting for a local
franchisee, and I was impressed with what he could do with an old,
gummy floor.
If you don't like SandFree, I'm sure there are competitors who do the
same thing. You might be able to figure out what products they use and
do it yourself.
--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX
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Posted by Red Green on June 17, 2008, 10:17 pm
> I would like to refinish my existing water based poly kitchen floor
> without having to strip it down to bare wood. There are some places
> were the wear is heavy but most everywhere else, where there is less
> or no traffic, is fine. I will stay with water based polyurethane to
> re-finish.
>
> I read that it can be done w/o sanding down to bare wood, but not if
> there were some cleaners used on the floor. My wife likes Murphy's oil
> soap, so it was used but only a few times. It may be one of the bad
> guys. Can it be cleaned off?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated on how to proceed.
>
> GA
Any color, wear, unevenness, whatever will show when redone. It will look
like a new old floor. You would be topcoating and not refinishing.
If the sander is what's keeping you from doing it right, you may know only
of the old drum sanders and the floor gouging horror stories that are not
just stories.
Redid a floor with one of these a few months back. It's heavy (goodness)
but it's a breeze to control. You can actually guide it with one hand. You
would REALLY have to make an effort to gouge a floor with it. It gets very
close to the edge. Even a handheld sander will do for what's left at the
edges. Could even hand sand with patience.
The floor came out awesome. The local Borg had it in the area I was in at
the time. Did entire dining room floor for $220. That includes everything -
rental, supplies, poly, discs, tax, everything...except labor and
electricity. The poly was put down with a pad on a pole. Like a sponge mop.
I found this much better than a brush because you cove large areas in a
short amount of time. No lines or brush marks because the poly never has
time to begin surface setting. Just all flows real sweet.
http://raybornhardware.com/4disc%20Floor%20Sander.html
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