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removing/covering up bad paint radio 08-12-2006
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Posted by on August 12, 2006, 9:47 pm
all right. i am in the process of scraping paint off my bathroom walls
and ceiling. i don't want to scrape anymore!

i don't know if there is some sort of sealer on the walls or what. it's
drywall, the building was built in 1980. there is something on the
walls, i don't think it's oil paint because it doesn't come off unless
i gouge at it with the scraper, but it's glossy and was probably at one
time white but is now yellow. i'd primed and painted over it probably 3
years ago. there are places where it was peeling, so i started to pick
at it and a lot of it peeled off, sometimes in fairly large sized
sheets.

that would be fine if i could take it all off that way, but what's left
is sticking pretty well and is hard to scrape. i haven't even started
the ceiling.

my question is: can i just put drywall mud or plaster or something to
that extent over it? will it stick or will it more likely flake off?

my bathroom's been in disarray for the last month because i can only
spend about an hour at a time before i get bored/frustrated and need to
do something else and at this point i'm about 50% done... i need my
bathroom back!

thanks.


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Posted by Al Bundy on August 13, 2006, 1:36 am
radio@mesmerized.org wrote in news:1155433644.290427.69640
@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> all right. i am in the process of scraping paint off my bathroom walls
> and ceiling. i don't want to scrape anymore!
>
> i don't know if there is some sort of sealer on the walls or what. it's
> drywall, the building was built in 1980. there is something on the
> walls, i don't think it's oil paint because it doesn't come off unless
> i gouge at it with the scraper, but it's glossy and was probably at one
> time white but is now yellow. i'd primed and painted over it probably 3
> years ago. there are places where it was peeling, so i started to pick
> at it and a lot of it peeled off, sometimes in fairly large sized
> sheets.
>
> that would be fine if i could take it all off that way, but what's left
> is sticking pretty well and is hard to scrape. i haven't even started
> the ceiling.
>
> my question is: can i just put drywall mud or plaster or something to
> that extent over it? will it stick or will it more likely flake off?
>
> my bathroom's been in disarray for the last month because i can only
> spend about an hour at a time before i get bored/frustrated and need to
> do something else and at this point i'm about 50% done... i need my
> bathroom back!
>
> thanks.
>
>


Whatever is loose has to come off. Covering it with "something" will just
result in the "whatever it is" to peel off with a coat of the new
"something" you put on it.

> can i just put drywall mud or plaster or something.

Could it be old wallpaper underneath? Does it have like air bubbles?

In a case where it is wallpaper, what happens is the room moisture gets
through the latex paint and causes the old wallpaper to bubble and maybe
"flake". If you think this might be the case then:

- Scrape, gouge, cut with util knife, etc all the loose stuff until you
have all solid areas.

- Prime entire wall with oil based primer. Let it dry WELL. "Kills
Oderless" works. Don't use the Kills that is not oderless that is a buck
or two cheaper. It stinks HORRIBLY BAD. Get the primer tinted 3/4 of the
final color. Paint store/dept should have a machine setting to tint to
3/4 of the color you give them.

(If it is wallpaper under there somepalce, if you put latex primer or
paint and/or mud on it, places that were not messed up will start to
bubble.)

- mud and smooth out

- prime again with latex or oil based primer. Might as well use oil since
you already have some and a roller loaded up with it. After the first
priming, wrap the roller cover in plastic wrap so it doesn't dry.

- paint with latex paint

Posted by Norminn on August 13, 2006, 8:41 am
radio@mesmerized.org wrote:
> all right. i am in the process of scraping paint off my bathroom walls
> and ceiling. i don't want to scrape anymore!
>
> i don't know if there is some sort of sealer on the walls or what. it's
> drywall, the building was built in 1980. there is something on the
> walls, i don't think it's oil paint because it doesn't come off unless
> i gouge at it with the scraper, but it's glossy and was probably at one
> time white but is now yellow. i'd primed and painted over it probably 3
> years ago. there are places where it was peeling, so i started to pick
> at it and a lot of it peeled off, sometimes in fairly large sized
> sheets.
>
> that would be fine if i could take it all off that way, but what's left
> is sticking pretty well and is hard to scrape. i haven't even started
> the ceiling.
>
> my question is: can i just put drywall mud or plaster or something to
> that extent over it? will it stick or will it more likely flake off?
>
> my bathroom's been in disarray for the last month because i can only
> spend about an hour at a time before i get bored/frustrated and need to
> do something else and at this point i'm about 50% done... i need my
> bathroom back!
>
> thanks.
>
I would scrape what is loose NOW, not pick at the rest. BTDT. Sand the
gloss paint with fine sand paper. Wash the room well with good household
cleaner, rinse, dry. Spackle the edges of peeled paint to feather the
edges. "Sand" the spackle lightly with a damp cloth wrapped around a
flat sanding block. Prime the spackled areas, being careful to feather
out borders. Prime the whole room. Be meticulous about following
instructions for recoating, keeping paint stirred, etc. Paint with your
favorite paint (which is purchased to go with the primer). It is
amazing how wet the ceiling can be after a shower, even with exhaust fan
running. Dry the ceiling and use another fan for a while to make sure
it is dry prior to priming and painting.

My least favorite problem to deal with is latex over oil enamel. I
never use latex on doors or trim, as it is almost impossible to patch
and sand little dings when it's time to repaint.

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