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removing/reparing studs in concrete pool deck old dirtbeard 06-03-2006
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Posted by old dirtbeard on June 3, 2006, 3:37 pm
Hi all,

I just removed a security fence around my in-ground swimming pool. It has a
concrete and brick deck with two problems now:

(1). studs in metal inserts used to secure the square steel fence posts for
the gates now protrude (four in each leg) -- I tried double nutting them and
backing them out, but they snap off or strip the nuts. The studs are
threaded into what looks like steel inserts, and I guess they are rusted
solid.

(2) series of 1 inch round holes where removable fence poles were inserted
now surround much of the pool.

For the studs, I think I may try cutting them off with a cut of saw, try
driving them into the concrete deeper and then patch with something. The
problem here is the pool decking is quite nice, is part of my patio and is
just a few steps from the livingroom, so I do not want it to look shabby
when I am done.

For the 1 inch round holes, I think I can find plastic caps to cover the
holes, but would like a permanent solution if there is a good one (again,
they ring the perimeter of the pool and whatever I do will be quite
obvious).

I would appreciate your suggestions and experience in similar situations.
Thank you very much.



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Posted by ameijers on June 3, 2006, 6:36 pm

> Hi all,
>
> I just removed a security fence around my in-ground swimming pool. It has
a
> concrete and brick deck with two problems now:
>
> (1). studs in metal inserts used to secure the square steel fence posts
for
> the gates now protrude (four in each leg) -- I tried double nutting them
and
> backing them out, but they snap off or strip the nuts. The studs are
> threaded into what looks like steel inserts, and I guess they are rusted
> solid.
>
> (2) series of 1 inch round holes where removable fence poles were inserted
> now surround much of the pool.
>
> For the studs, I think I may try cutting them off with a cut of saw, try
> driving them into the concrete deeper and then patch with something. The
> problem here is the pool decking is quite nice, is part of my patio and is
> just a few steps from the livingroom, so I do not want it to look shabby
> when I am done.
>
> For the 1 inch round holes, I think I can find plastic caps to cover the
> holes, but would like a permanent solution if there is a good one (again,
> they ring the perimeter of the pool and whatever I do will be quite
> obvious).
>
> I would appreciate your suggestions and experience in similar situations.
> Thank you very much.
>
Probably a dumb question, but what do local ordinances and your insurance
agent say about removing the security fence? I agree, they generally look
like crap, but many areas have required them for several years, and if
(heaven forbid) a neighbor kid does wander in and drown, your carrier may
decline to pay the claim, especially if they asked about a fence when they
wrote the policy.

aem sends...


Posted by old dirtbeard on June 3, 2006, 8:16 pm
Dear Aem,

Great question -- I wondered the same thing so I called the City about this
as I also have a fence around the property and did not know if I needed the
fence directly around the pool in addition to the property fencing.

The City (Rancho Palos Verdes in SoCal) said I could remove the pool
security fencing so long as:
1) the property fence completely surrounds the area where the pool is
located
2) it is 5 feet high, or higher
3) it has latching gates

Fortunately my property fence met all the requirements so I took it down. I
also made sure the gates are spring loaded (self closing), but the city did
not say this was a requirement. Oddly enough, the pool security fence was
not five feet high.

doug

>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just removed a security fence around my in-ground swimming pool. It has
> a
>> concrete and brick deck with two problems now:
>>
>> (1). studs in metal inserts used to secure the square steel fence posts
> for
>> the gates now protrude (four in each leg) -- I tried double nutting them
> and
>> backing them out, but they snap off or strip the nuts. The studs are
>> threaded into what looks like steel inserts, and I guess they are rusted
>> solid.
>>
>> (2) series of 1 inch round holes where removable fence poles were
>> inserted
>> now surround much of the pool.
>>
>> For the studs, I think I may try cutting them off with a cut of saw, try
>> driving them into the concrete deeper and then patch with something. The
>> problem here is the pool decking is quite nice, is part of my patio and
>> is
>> just a few steps from the livingroom, so I do not want it to look shabby
>> when I am done.
>>
>> For the 1 inch round holes, I think I can find plastic caps to cover the
>> holes, but would like a permanent solution if there is a good one (again,
>> they ring the perimeter of the pool and whatever I do will be quite
>> obvious).
>>
>> I would appreciate your suggestions and experience in similar situations.
>> Thank you very much.
>>
> Probably a dumb question, but what do local ordinances and your insurance
> agent say about removing the security fence? I agree, they generally look
> like crap, but many areas have required them for several years, and if
> (heaven forbid) a neighbor kid does wander in and drown, your carrier may
> decline to pay the claim, especially if they asked about a fence when they
> wrote the policy.
>
> aem sends...
>



Posted by Cliff Hartle on June 4, 2006, 9:11 am
You could fill in the fence post holes with hydraulic cement, patch the
holes where the studs were but there is no way that you can do it and get
any kind of match. You could always look at the fence pole holes as a
pattern but digging out and filling in where the studs are going to make
irregular patches.

You could look into various concrete resurfacer options after you fill the
holes. I have seen two different products in the concrete section. Also
there are various paints.

There are also systems installed by contractors. One coats your entire deck
with various aggregates mixed with some sort of epoxy to about 1" or so.
They can use different colors and can make patterns in the deck. Others put
down stencils and kind of paint your deck.

> Hi all,
>
> I just removed a security fence around my in-ground swimming pool. It has
> a concrete and brick deck with two problems now:
>
> (1). studs in metal inserts used to secure the square steel fence posts
> for the gates now protrude (four in each leg) -- I tried double nutting
> them and backing them out, but they snap off or strip the nuts. The studs
> are threaded into what looks like steel inserts, and I guess they are
> rusted solid.
>
> (2) series of 1 inch round holes where removable fence poles were inserted
> now surround much of the pool.
>
> For the studs, I think I may try cutting them off with a cut of saw, try
> driving them into the concrete deeper and then patch with something. The
> problem here is the pool decking is quite nice, is part of my patio and is
> just a few steps from the livingroom, so I do not want it to look shabby
> when I am done.
>
> For the 1 inch round holes, I think I can find plastic caps to cover the
> holes, but would like a permanent solution if there is a good one (again,
> they ring the perimeter of the pool and whatever I do will be quite
> obvious).
>
> I would appreciate your suggestions and experience in similar situations.
> Thank you very much.
>



Posted by Goedjn on June 5, 2006, 2:39 pm
>I just removed a security fence around my in-ground swimming pool. It has a
>concrete and brick deck with two problems now:
. . . .
>(2) series of 1 inch round holes where removable fence poles were inserted
>now surround much of the pool.
. . . .
>For the 1 inch round holes, I think I can find plastic caps to cover the
>holes, but would like a permanent solution if there is a good one (again,
>they ring the perimeter of the pool and whatever I do will be quite
>obvious).


Stick Tiki torches in the fence-holes.



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