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renting trucks from uhaul - do any of purchase the optional insurance? techman41973 03-31-2008
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Posted by krw on March 31, 2008, 10:02 pm
says...
> >I never purchase any additional insurance. The people who own the vehicle
> >have it insured. To charge that to the renter is just a scam.
>
> Try hitting someone or something without the optional insurance, and see
> who the lawyers go after! (No, better NOT!!!)
>
> (Fortunately, I have yet to be in that boat!)
>
> Why do personal car insurance policies often cover driving rental
> vehicles? I suspect there is a need!
>
> If you have personal car insurance, and they cover your use of a
> rental vehicle, and you don't mind putting them on the hook if you bungle
> driving the truck, then go ahead and decline the optional insurance!

Be careful renting a truck with your insurance. You *may* not be
covered. Check with your insurance company.

--
Keith

Posted by on April 1, 2008, 12:51 am
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzz says...
> says...
> > >I never purchase any additional insurance. The people who own the vehicle
> > >have it insured. To charge that to the renter is just a scam.
> >
> > Try hitting someone or something without the optional insurance, and see
> > who the lawyers go after! (No, better NOT!!!)
> >
> > (Fortunately, I have yet to be in that boat!)
> >
> > Why do personal car insurance policies often cover driving rental
> > vehicles? I suspect there is a need!
> >
> > If you have personal car insurance, and they cover your use of a
> > rental vehicle, and you don't mind putting them on the hook if you bungle
> > driving the truck, then go ahead and decline the optional insurance!
>
> Be careful renting a truck with your insurance. You *may* not be
> covered. Check with your insurance company.

Personal auto policies often have a gross vehicle weight limit for
covered vehicles. My own covers smaller U-Haul-style rentals, but not
full-sized U-Haul trucks.

--
josh@phred.org is Joshua Putnam
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/>
Braze your own bicycle frames. See
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html>

Posted by Don Klipstein on April 1, 2008, 2:18 am
>>>>I never purchase any additional insurance. The people who own the
>>>>vehicle have it insured. To charge that to the renter is just a scam.
>>>
>>> Try hitting someone or something without the optional insurance, and see
>>> who the lawyers go after! (No, better NOT!!!)
>>> (Fortunately, I have yet to be in that boat!)
>>> Why do personal car insurance policies often cover driving rental
>>> vehicles? I suspect there is a need!
>>>
>>> If you have personal car insurance, and they cover your use of a
>>> rental vehicle, and you don't mind putting them on the hook if you bungle
>>> driving the truck, then go ahead and decline the optional insurance!
>>
>> Be careful renting a truck with your insurance. You *may* not be
>> covered. Check with your insurance company.
>
>Personal auto policies often have a gross vehicle weight limit for
>covered vehicles. My own covers smaller U-Haul-style rentals, but not
>full-sized U-Haul trucks.

1. I don't see a gross vehicle registered weight limit in my policy.

2. Check out the registered gross vehicle weights of various rental
trucks. My experience is that smaller to moderate U-Haul trucks are
what I would call "fluffy". See how many of those are within whatever
weight limit your policy specifies.

3. My experience in PA is that the usual driver's license to drive cars
also allows such licensed drivers to drive trucks up to 29,000 pounds or
something like that, provided this weight does not include a trailer more
than 10,000 pounds. IIRC, that PA license also allows Pennsylvanian
drivers to drive street-legal motorbikes up to 7 horsepower.
I suspect it is at least a little common to have your insurance cover
your driving a covered rental vehicle that is in the same license
classification as "your covered auto".

Furniture is mostly air by volume, even if stuffed with pillows or
clothes. A truck filled with furniture and clothes and intended to
mainly carry such lighter-fluffier loads will weigh a lot less than one
filled with and intended to transport wholesale paper, wholesale foods,
building materials, cabinet kits in knocked-down-flat form, compacted
trash or liquids.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Posted by on April 1, 2008, 5:16 pm
says...

> >Personal auto policies often have a gross vehicle weight limit for
> >covered vehicles. My own covers smaller U-Haul-style rentals, but not
> >full-sized U-Haul trucks.

> 1. I don't see a gross vehicle registered weight limit in my policy.

Sorry, misstated that, the danger of quoting from memory. I look it up
before actually renting anything.

It's a limit on load capacity.

There's one section that defines "your covered car," which includes
various "private passenger cars" or "utility cars." A "utility car" is
defined elsewhere as a pickup truck, van, or panel truck with a limit on
rated cargo capacity, 2000 lbs.

Smaller U-hauls are rated under 2000lbs capacity, larger ones are over.

--
josh@phred.org is Joshua Putnam
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/>
Braze your own bicycle frames. See
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html>

Posted by krw on April 1, 2008, 7:24 pm
says...
> >>>>I never purchase any additional insurance. The people who own the
> >>>>vehicle have it insured. To charge that to the renter is just a scam.
> >>>
> >>> Try hitting someone or something without the optional insurance, and see
> >>> who the lawyers go after! (No, better NOT!!!)
> >>> (Fortunately, I have yet to be in that boat!)
> >>> Why do personal car insurance policies often cover driving rental
> >>> vehicles? I suspect there is a need!
> >>>
> >>> If you have personal car insurance, and they cover your use of a
> >>> rental vehicle, and you don't mind putting them on the hook if you bungle
> >>> driving the truck, then go ahead and decline the optional insurance!
> >>
> >> Be careful renting a truck with your insurance. You *may* not be
> >> covered. Check with your insurance company.
> >
> >Personal auto policies often have a gross vehicle weight limit for
> >covered vehicles. My own covers smaller U-Haul-style rentals, but not
> >full-sized U-Haul trucks.

Exactly. When I last checked, I believe my insurance covered up to
10Klbs, GVW. IIRC, U-Hauls go up to 16K (I believe a CDL is
required after that).

> 1. I don't see a gross vehicle registered weight limit in my policy.

Which is why I said to check. Some do.

> 2. Check out the registered gross vehicle weights of various rental
> trucks. My experience is that smaller to moderate U-Haul trucks are
> what I would call "fluffy". See how many of those are within whatever
> weight limit your policy specifies.

Fluffy?

> 3. My experience in PA is that the usual driver's license to drive cars
> also allows such licensed drivers to drive trucks up to 29,000 pounds or
> something like that, provided this weight does not include a trailer more
> than 10,000 pounds. IIRC, that PA license also allows Pennsylvanian
> drivers to drive street-legal motorbikes up to 7 horsepower.
> I suspect it is at least a little common to have your insurance cover
> your driving a covered rental vehicle that is in the same license
> classification as "your covered auto".
>
> Furniture is mostly air by volume, even if stuffed with pillows or
> clothes. A truck filled with furniture and clothes and intended to
> mainly carry such lighter-fluffier loads will weigh a lot less than one
> filled with and intended to transport wholesale paper, wholesale foods,
> building materials, cabinet kits in knocked-down-flat form, compacted
> trash or liquids.

U-Hauls aren't designed to carry pig-iron either. ;-) My last move
(11/'07) was about 10Klbs, about the same size as the largest
U-Haul.

--
Keith

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