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replacing AC trailer 09-26-2008
---> Re: replacing AC Edwin Pawlowski09-26-2008
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Posted by trailer on September 26, 2008, 1:40 pm


Our air conditioner unit is almost 20 years old now. It is a Trane unit and
still works fine-SEER is 12.

The attic furnace, also a Trane, is natural gas and is about 13 years old.
It still works OK.

We haven't had problems with any of the equipment since installation. I
live in northern Texas-the summers can get pretty hot and humid.

I hear a lot of commercials recommending that I change out the old units
with new, higher efficiency air conditioners and furnaces. Many of the
commercials claim that the newer units will pay for themselves with savings
in utility costs.

My house was built in 70s and I have added insulation in the attic. It has
about 2200 sq ft living area. My highest electric bill this summer was
$350 (electric only).

Is it worth replacing the AC and/or the furnace with new units? Depending
on the costs, I would strongly consider upgrading the SEER.

Thanks.





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Posted by Ralph Mowery on September 26, 2008, 3:03 pm



> Our air conditioner unit is almost 20 years old now. It is a Trane unit
> and
> still works fine-SEER is 12.
>
> The attic furnace, also a Trane, is natural gas and is about 13 years old.
> It still works OK.
>
> We haven't had problems with any of the equipment since installation. I
> live in northern Texas-the summers can get pretty hot and humid.
>
> I hear a lot of commercials recommending that I change out the old units
> with new, higher efficiency air conditioners and furnaces. Many of the
> commercials claim that the newer units will pay for themselves with
> savings
> in utility costs.
>
> My house was built in 70s and I have added insulation in the attic. It
> has
> about 2200 sq ft living area. My highest electric bill this summer was
> $350 (electric only).
>
> Is it worth replacing the AC and/or the furnace with new units? Depending
> on the costs, I would strongly consider upgrading the SEER.
>
> Thanks.


It is not worth it to replace the unit if it is working. It would take many
years (like maybe 15 or 20 or more) to pay for it. a SEER of 12 is not
really that bad if it is working and already installed. Even if you clould
save $ 15 to $ 30 a month , it would be a very long payback and by then you
would need a new unit.

I would just run what you have and if it breaks and costs more than say
around $ 500 to repair, then replace it.




Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on September 26, 2008, 3:39 pm



> My house was built in 70s and I have added insulation in the attic. It
> has
> about 2200 sq ft living area. My highest electric bill this summer was
> $350 (electric only).
>
> Is it worth replacing the AC and/or the furnace with new units? Depending
> on the costs, I would strongly consider upgrading the SEER.
>
> Thanks.

Run the numbers. Since your house has additional insulation, it may be
possible to get the same or more comfort with a smaller unit. You need to
find a competent installer that can properly size (Manual J) the unit and
figure operating cost comparisons. We don't know your climate or your
electric rate so we can't decide for you.

OTOH, if it breaks it is probably not worth investing a lot of money in
repairs. At least you'll be ready to make the right choice if it does.



Posted by on September 26, 2008, 6:07 pm


> > My house was built in 70s and I have added insulation in the attic. =A0=
It
> > has
> > about 2200 sq ft living area. =A0 My highest electric bill this summer =
was
> > $350 (electric only).
>
> > Is it worth replacing the AC and/or the furnace with new units? =A0Depe=
nding
> > on the costs, I would strongly consider upgrading the SEER.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> Run the numbers. Since your house has additional insulation, it may be
> possible to get the same or more comfort with a smaller unit. =A0You need=
to
> find a competent installer that can properly size (Manual J) the unit and
> figure operating cost comparisons. =A0We don't =A0know your climate or yo=
ur
> electric rate so we can't decide for you.
>
> OTOH, if it breaks it is probably not worth investing a lot of money in
> repairs. =A0At least you'll be ready to make the right choice if it does.

I have to totally agree with Ed. I usually do. Any good
installer will do the numbers (Manual J) and can give a an reasonable
accurate answer. Local conditions mean a lot in this situation, so
anyone outside the area is working at a disadvantage.

Good Luck.

Posted by on September 26, 2008, 6:12 pm


On Sep 26, 6:07=A0pm, jmee...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
..

>
> =A0 =A0 I have to totally agree with Ed. =A0I usually do. =A0Any good
> installer will do the numbers (Manual J) and can give a an reasonable
> accurate answer. =A0Local conditions mean a lot in this situation, so
> anyone outside the area is working at a disadvantage.
>
> =A0 Good Luck.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I had to add one thing. If a contractor wants to give you an
answer or do the work without doing the numbers, you should look for a
different contractor. While an experienced contractor can usually hit
close, the smart ones will do the numbers. If you had a standard home
in a development with all the same homes and had not had additional
insulation, then a local contractor who had recently worked on several
homes in your area like yours might be able to give a good opinion
without doing all the numbers.

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