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replacing quad circuit breaker tysteel3000 12-24-2006
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Posted by on December 24, 2006, 9:08 pm


Hi everyone,

I have a question to ask about replacing a circuit breaker that's
shorting out. I need to replace a Bryant circuit breaker that is a
quad...it's has both a 20 amp switch and 30 amp switch on it. My hot
water heater and dryer is hooked up to this breaker.

I went looking around today at Home Depot for a replacement, but I
can't find a quad breaker that has both 20 amp and 30 amp The
closest I found was a quad that has two 30 amp switches on it. Would
there be a problem if I replaced the old breaker with this one they
have at Home Depot? I talked to a guy who works there, I'm not sure
how knowledgeable he is, but he told me that while the breaker would
work as a replacement to the other one, it might overload the circuits
because it's not a 20 amp+30 amp quad breaker but a 30 amp+30amp. I
looked around at a couple of other stores, but I can't find an
identical match to replace the old breaker. So, I was just wondering
if there would be any real problem replacing it with the breaker I
found at home depot (I'm not sure why there would be a problem...but
that's why I'm asking) , or if I should just have another breaker
special ordered over internet to be on the safe side?

thank you


AppliancePartsPros.com, Inc.
Posted by RBM on December 24, 2006, 9:24 pm


If your water heater is 4500 to 5200 watt, which are pretty standard, it
should use a 30 amp circuit breaker as does an electric dryer. This could be
part of your problem. The wire size for both the dryer and the water heater
should be #10 . If the wire size is, than a 30 amp breaker would be
appropriate. If the water heater is less than 4500 watts and is fed by a #12
cable, then you need a 20 amp breaker to properly protect that gauge wire



> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a question to ask about replacing a circuit breaker that's
> shorting out. I need to replace a Bryant circuit breaker that is a
> quad...it's has both a 20 amp switch and 30 amp switch on it. My hot
> water heater and dryer is hooked up to this breaker.
>
> I went looking around today at Home Depot for a replacement, but I
> can't find a quad breaker that has both 20 amp and 30 amp The
> closest I found was a quad that has two 30 amp switches on it. Would
> there be a problem if I replaced the old breaker with this one they
> have at Home Depot? I talked to a guy who works there, I'm not sure
> how knowledgeable he is, but he told me that while the breaker would
> work as a replacement to the other one, it might overload the circuits
> because it's not a 20 amp+30 amp quad breaker but a 30 amp+30amp. I
> looked around at a couple of other stores, but I can't find an
> identical match to replace the old breaker. So, I was just wondering
> if there would be any real problem replacing it with the breaker I
> found at home depot (I'm not sure why there would be a problem...but
> that's why I'm asking) , or if I should just have another breaker
> special ordered over internet to be on the safe side?
>
> thank you
>



Posted by Toller on December 24, 2006, 9:46 pm



> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a question to ask about replacing a circuit breaker that's
> shorting out. I need to replace a Bryant circuit breaker that is a
> quad...it's has both a 20 amp switch and 30 amp switch on it. My hot
> water heater and dryer is hooked up to this breaker.
>
> I went looking around today at Home Depot for a replacement, but I
> can't find a quad breaker that has both 20 amp and 30 amp The
> closest I found was a quad that has two 30 amp switches on it. Would
> there be a problem if I replaced the old breaker with this one they
> have at Home Depot? I talked to a guy who works there, I'm not sure
> how knowledgeable he is, but he told me that while the breaker would
> work as a replacement to the other one, it might overload the circuits
> because it's not a 20 amp+30 amp quad breaker but a 30 amp+30amp. I
> looked around at a couple of other stores, but I can't find an
> identical match to replace the old breaker. So, I was just wondering
> if there would be any real problem replacing it with the breaker I
> found at home depot (I'm not sure why there would be a problem...but
> that's why I'm asking) , or if I should just have another breaker
> special ordered over internet to be on the safe side?
>
Try an electrical supplier. They stock lots of stuff HD doesn't, and
probably would sell to you.
What size wire goes to the 20a breaker? It should say right on the cable.
If #10 then you can put in a 30a breaker. If #12 you can't.



Posted by Nate Nagel on December 24, 2006, 10:21 pm


tysteel3000@aol.com wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a question to ask about replacing a circuit breaker that's
> shorting out. I need to replace a Bryant circuit breaker that is a
> quad...it's has both a 20 amp switch and 30 amp switch on it. My hot
> water heater and dryer is hooked up to this breaker.
>
> I went looking around today at Home Depot for a replacement, but I
> can't find a quad breaker that has both 20 amp and 30 amp The
> closest I found was a quad that has two 30 amp switches on it. Would
> there be a problem if I replaced the old breaker with this one they
> have at Home Depot? I talked to a guy who works there, I'm not sure
> how knowledgeable he is, but he told me that while the breaker would
> work as a replacement to the other one, it might overload the circuits
> because it's not a 20 amp+30 amp quad breaker but a 30 amp+30amp. I
> looked around at a couple of other stores, but I can't find an
> identical match to replace the old breaker. So, I was just wondering
> if there would be any real problem replacing it with the breaker I
> found at home depot (I'm not sure why there would be a problem...but
> that's why I'm asking) , or if I should just have another breaker
> special ordered over internet to be on the safe side?
>
> thank you
>

I'm guessing that you don't have any empty spaces in your breaker panel?
easiest thing to do would be to just get a 20A double pole breaker and
then a 30A double pole breaker.

however, if memory serves correctly (and I am going off memory here)
didn't Bryant become part of Cutler-Hammer? if that is correct then this:

http://dale-electric.com/detail.php?itemnumber=BQ230240

might be what you seek.

good luck

nate

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Posted by Nate Nagel on December 24, 2006, 10:29 pm


Nate Nagel wrote:
> tysteel3000@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have a question to ask about replacing a circuit breaker that's
>> shorting out. I need to replace a Bryant circuit breaker that is a
>> quad...it's has both a 20 amp switch and 30 amp switch on it. My hot
>> water heater and dryer is hooked up to this breaker.
>>
>> I went looking around today at Home Depot for a replacement, but I
>> can't find a quad breaker that has both 20 amp and 30 amp The
>> closest I found was a quad that has two 30 amp switches on it. Would
>> there be a problem if I replaced the old breaker with this one they
>> have at Home Depot? I talked to a guy who works there, I'm not sure
>> how knowledgeable he is, but he told me that while the breaker would
>> work as a replacement to the other one, it might overload the circuits
>> because it's not a 20 amp+30 amp quad breaker but a 30 amp+30amp. I
>> looked around at a couple of other stores, but I can't find an
>> identical match to replace the old breaker. So, I was just wondering
>> if there would be any real problem replacing it with the breaker I
>> found at home depot (I'm not sure why there would be a problem...but
>> that's why I'm asking) , or if I should just have another breaker
>> special ordered over internet to be on the safe side?
>> thank you
>>
>
> I'm guessing that you don't have any empty spaces in your breaker panel?
> easiest thing to do would be to just get a 20A double pole breaker and
> then a 30A double pole breaker.
>
> however, if memory serves correctly (and I am going off memory here)
> didn't Bryant become part of Cutler-Hammer? if that is correct then this:
>
> http://dale-electric.com/detail.php?itemnumber=BQ230240
>
> might be what you seek.
>
> good luck
>
> nate
>

this may help:

http://www.eatonelectrical.com/unsecure/cms1/LT08703012E.PDF

so it looks like the part number I referenced above may be the correct
replacement for what you have, assuming that the breaker types match.

nate

--
replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
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