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reseting GE cooker? DManzaluni 10-12-2009
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Posted by DManzaluni on October 14, 2009, 4:51 pm


> On Oct 13, 1:06=A0pm, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> > > Sorry about that: It is a large home appliance with 4 (round) gas
> > > surfaces on the top to heat pots or pans =A0 I think that bit is call=
ed
> > > a range though I have heard the whole thing referred to as a range,
> > > which I thought confusing. =A0Which is why I called it a cooker and
> > > thought that people would realise by the reference to grill igniters
> > > and ovens not working what I was talking about.
> > > Underneath there is an oven which has two trays in it which go from
> > > side to side to put things like chickens or beef or indeed fish on.
> > > The oven heats up the food inside it by tw menthods: It either uses a
> > > grill at the top under which you put the grub or an element of some
> > > type under the lower surface which heats up the whole oven to maintai=
n
> > > an even tempertature. =A0 Either seem to use an igniter to which I
> > > referred in my OP . =A0Both igniters (they used to be called pilot
> > > lights when they were actual flames) went out at once and the grill
> > > one seems to have reset itself. =A0My problem is that the oven one
> > > doesn't now turn on at all.. =A0There is of course a 50/50 chance tha=
t
> > > the oven igniter needs replacement but as they both went out at once
> > > and one then started working again, I figured this is slightly less
> > > likely.
> > > The whole is controlled by an LED panel at the front surface (to the
> > > right of 4 round knobs which control the top gas 'burners') which
> > > shows mode, temperature, grill on/off etc. =A0There is also a self-
> > > cleaning function.
> > > There is also a drawer underneath but I don't think it does anything
> > > besides holding roasting pans: It doesn't ever seem to have acted as =
a
> > > warmer drawer.
> > > (Where I come from, this whole appliance is called a stove but I didn=
t
> > > want to use that term as i hadn't heard any one use it for years)
> > They are most commonly called ranges today, but the term stove is
> > still used and most people would know what you were talking about.
> > As to your problem, I can't help. =A0 On the ranges I've seen there is
> > no reset for the igniters. =A0 They either work or they don't.
> > Try googling "bad oven igniter" or "replacing ge profile oven igniter
> > or similar.- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> Most gas ovens use a ceramic heating element. When electricity passes
> through it, it heats up and changes the resistance, allowing voltage
> to open a gas solenoid when the element is hot enough to ignite the
> burner. I would look on the GE site for the service manual and see
> where the breakers are. If the breakers/fuses are okay, then the
> problem is either the oven controller, the wiring or the igniter. =A0If
> the oven controller, be prepared to lay out some dollars/pounds/euros/
> yen. An alternative would be to check the resistance of the ceramic
> elements. They can go intermittent if they are cracked. The top
> igniter controls the broiler and only comes on when set to broil. The
> bottom one is usually easily accessed by lifting out the floor of the
> oven. A properly working igniter will light up the bottom of the oven
> when it is starting. If I understood your post correctly, the top
> igniter works, but not the . If this is the case, you might be
> able to carefully swap them and see if the problem travels with the
> igniter.
> A trip to the library for a copy of poputar digest's book of how to
> fix anything will walk you through the steps to troubleshoot the oven.

Thank you for that very full response: The current problem is that GE
apparently wants everyone to buy new products rather than repair their
own. Or at the least make the profit out of their repair centres which
they would have made on the new purchase. You used to be able to call
626 2000 and be told how to fix any GE product within reason. Now they
don't even bother to listen to the problem, they rush you off the
phone with a reference to some 800 number to call out a repairer.
Apparently the igniter costs about $18. A call out will cost a few
hundred by the time it is over!

I have seen the upper igniter in action and that is exactly how it
works: I wonder how I can figure out how to switch the igniters? The
lower cover seems to be held in with 6 or 8 screws but apparently you
have to move this GAS cooker forward to get at the other end of the
wires to the igniter?? (which in my case is a bit difficult)

Posted by WannabeChef on October 15, 2009, 7:12 pm


> > On Oct 13, 1:06=A0pm, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> > > > Sorry about that: It is a large home appliance with 4 (round) gas
> > > > surfaces on the top to heat pots or pans =A0 I think that bit is ca=
lled
> > > > a range though I have heard the whole thing referred to as a range,
> > > > which I thought confusing. =A0Which is why I called it a cooker and
> > > > thought that people would realise by the reference to grill igniter=
s
> > > > and ovens not working what I was talking about.
> > > > Underneath there is an oven which has two trays in it which go from
> > > > side to side to put things like chickens or beef or indeed fish on.
> > > > The oven heats up the food inside it by tw menthods: It either uses=
a
> > > > grill at the top under which you put the grub or an element of some
> > > > type under the lower surface which heats up the whole oven to maint=
ain
> > > > an even tempertature. =A0 Either seem to use an igniter to which I
> > > > referred in my OP . =A0Both igniters (they used to be called pilot
> > > > lights when they were actual flames) went out at once and the grill
> > > > one seems to have reset itself. =A0My problem is that the oven one
> > > > doesn't now turn on at all.. =A0There is of course a 50/50 chance t=
hat
> > > > the oven igniter needs replacement but as they both went out at onc=
e
> > > > and one then started working again, I figured this is slightly less
> > > > likely.
> > > > The whole is controlled by an LED panel at the front surface (to th=
e
> > > > right of 4 round knobs which control the top gas 'burners') which
> > > > shows mode, temperature, grill on/off etc. =A0There is also a self-
> > > > cleaning function.
> > > > There is also a drawer underneath but I don't think it does anythin=
g
> > > > besides holding roasting pans: It doesn't ever seem to have acted a=
s a
> > > > warmer drawer.
> > > > (Where I come from, this whole appliance is called a stove but I di=
dnt
> > > > want to use that term as i hadn't heard any one use it for years)
> > > They are most commonly called ranges today, but the term stove is
> > > still used and most people would know what you were talking about.
> > > As to your problem, I can't help. =A0 On the ranges I've seen there i=
s
> > > no reset for the igniters. =A0 They either work or they don't.
> > > Try googling "bad oven igniter" or "replacing ge profile oven igniter
> > > or similar.- Hide quoted text -
> > > - Show quoted text -
> > Most gas ovens use a ceramic heating element. When electricity passes
> > through it, it heats up and changes the resistance, allowing voltage
> > to open a gas solenoid when the element is hot enough to ignite the
> > burner. I would look on the GE site for the service manual and see
> > where the breakers are. If the breakers/fuses are okay, then the
> > problem is either the oven controller, the wiring or the igniter. =A0If
> > the oven controller, be prepared to lay out some dollars/pounds/euros/
> > yen. An alternative would be to check the resistance of the ceramic
> > elements. They can go intermittent if they are cracked. The top
> > igniter controls the broiler and only comes on when set to broil. The
> > bottom one is usually easily accessed by lifting out the floor of the
> > oven. A properly working igniter will light up the bottom of the oven
> > when it is starting. If I understood your post correctly, the top
> > igniter works, but not the =A0. If this is the case, you might be
> > able to carefully swap them and see if the problem travels with the
> > igniter.
> > A trip to the library for a copy of poputar digest's book of how to
> > fix anything will walk you through the steps to troubleshoot the oven.
> Thank you for that very full response: The current problem is that GE
> apparently wants everyone to buy new products rather than repair their
> own. Or at the least make the profit out of their repair centres which
> they would have made on the new purchase. You used to be able to call
> 626 2000 and be told how to fix any GE product within reason. Now they
> don't even bother to listen to the problem, they rush you off the
> phone with a reference to some 800 =A0number to call out a repairer.
> Apparently the igniter costs about $18. A call out will cost a few
> hundred by the time it is over!
> I have seen the upper igniter in action and that is exactly how it
> works: I wonder how I can figure out how to switch the igniters? The
> lower cover seems to be held in with 6 or 8 screws but apparently you
> have to move this GAS cooker forward to get at the other end of the
> wires to the igniter?? (which in my case is a bit difficult)

Most of the wires to the ignitors are actually pretty short.- take a
look at the illustrations on www.pcappliancerepair.com . There are
also several articles on this site that tell you how to check the
various components as well. The igniters appear to be usable in both
positions. You may be able to just pull up on the bottom / floor of
the oven and get easy access to the burner and igniter.

Posted by ransley on October 13, 2009, 7:54 am


> I have a GE profile cooker on which the igniters suddenly stopped
> working
> I tried to restart it a few times and the grill igniter suddenly
> started working again. =A0It now works fine.
> Does anyone know how to get the oven igniter to restart working
> please? It wont turn on at all

Whats a cooker, I thought a crock pot till you indicated gas, if its a
gas 4 burner stove I use a wire brush to clean the ignitors on my
stove.

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