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Posted by Al Bundy on October 11, 2006, 8:43 pm
>
>> Eigenvector wrote:
>>>> Eigenvector wrote:
>>>>> I needed this when I was replacing the hinges on my door. The
>>>>> trouble that I have with door hinges is that the placement of the
>>>>> hinge is critical to hanging the door properly. So naturally its
>>>>> the most difficult aspect. Is there someway to clamp the hinge in
>>>>> place even though the door is typically much too wide for a clamp?
>>>>> I suspose I could use tape to hold it in place until I had 2
>>>>> screws in, but tape can mar the surface finish.
>>>> You can't just put the hinge in its mortice?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure I can, but what's to stop it from falling out when I let go?
>>> If it was a simple matter of setting it in the mortise and letting
>>> go I wouldn't have asked the question. Some mortises are tight
>>> enough to where that is possible, some aren't. Besides most door
>>> hinges are heavy enough to where simple gravity will pull them out
>>> unless the mortise is super tight. It's tough enough as it is,
>>> you're straddling a 30"+ door, trying to insert screws into a hinge
>>> plate that needs to be aligned perfectly and having to hold the
>>> hinge in place at the same time. It'd be nice to not have to hold
>>> on to the hinge while doing all that.
>>>
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>>>
>> You are trying to hard. The mortise should locate the hinge place.
>> The hard part is locating the mortise exactly. You hold the hinge
>> plate in the mortise with one hand, put a pencil in each hole, and
>> mark the hole. Make a dent in the center of each hole marking with a
>> nail set, drill a hole (size based on the screw), hold the plate in
>> position and screw in each screw. So the plate flops around you just
>> screw each screw a little at a time until all are tight.
>
> Oh I have no doubt in my mind that I'm making it too hard. It took me
> a while to figure out that you can simply line the two doors up side
> by side and locate the mortices that way. It never occurred to me to
> do that. Now the notion of pre-drilling the holes was again something
> that slipped my mind. You're correct of course, its easier to
> pre-locate the holes before attempting to actually secure the hinge
> plate all the way. Part of the other problem that I was having was
> using a power drill to insert the screws - bad idea because you have
> less control over the initial direction the screw takes on the way in.
>>
>> BTW, The hinge plates do not have to be located exactly. If they
>> are not, you loosen screws on the door and on the frame, then put in
>> the hinge pins and tighten the screws.
>>
>> If you are hanging new doors on old frame you have to measure each
>> exactly and fuss a little. If you have new frames and new doors, you
>> should buy a tool for cutting mortises cutting with a router (two or
>> three jigs fixed on a steel rod (no slop no mess, exact fit.).
>
>
> using a power drill to insert the screws -
Maybe you are already aware but couple of tips.
Use a variable speed drill. Most decent ones are.
> bad idea because you have
> less control over the initial direction the screw takes on the way in.
Use an ice pick or thin awl with a hammer to make a pilot hole deep
enough so it can only go one way. As said, drilling a pilot hole
works...if you can drill the hole straight:-)
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