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Posted by on April 27, 2007, 9:01 am
Hi All,
I live in NYC and I am considering a new shingle roof over the
existing roof. The current roof is the original and is 15 years old
made of composite shingle (contractor grade 20 year life). The roof is
2,400 square feet and has a 6/12 pitch, nothing fancy. The roof is in
just ok shape, but it's getting old fast.
A roofing contractor quoted me a price of $1.75 sq foot to install
timberline 30 shingles or Certain Teed woodscape 30 shingles, rounded
to $4,000. Is that a fair price? Assuming that is a fair price, does
it make sense to upgrade to a better shingle say certain teed landmark
50 shingles? Is the same amount of labor required to install a 50 year
shingle as compared to a 30 year shingle? Thanks in advance for your
advise.
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Posted by Nancy Young on April 27, 2007, 9:25 am
> Assuming that is a fair price, does
> it make sense to upgrade to a better shingle say certain teed landmark
> 50 shingles? Is the same amount of labor required to install a 50 year
> shingle as compared to a 30 year shingle? Thanks in advance for your
> advise.
For what it's worth, here is my experience. I've had my roof done a
couple of times, so I've seen the cost of the shingles. The cost of
doing your roof is in the labor. I would not skimp on the shingles because
why go through a reroof more often than necessary? They still just
nail down each shingle, doesn't matter how good it is.
Would I go for a 50 year shingle? I don't know. I wouldn't touch
a 20 year shingle. But, as I recall, if the job was $3500, the shingles
themselves were only a few hundred.
I'm sorry I don't know where I saw it, maybe someone here knows
one, there is some online estimator for what you can expect to pay
for installation. Check out the website of the brand you're considering
using. The one I used even listed the name of the local installer.
nancy
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on April 27, 2007, 9:47 am
> A roofing contractor quoted me a price of $1.75 sq foot to install
> timberline 30 shingles or Certain Teed woodscape 30 shingles, rounded
> to $4,000. Is that a fair price? Assuming that is a fair price, does
> it make sense to upgrade to a better shingle say certain teed landmark
> 50 shingles? Is the same amount of labor required to install a 50 year
> shingle as compared to a 30 year shingle? Thanks in advance for your
> advise.
Price sounds reasonable. Upgrading to a 50 year would have a slight labor
upgrade. Most 30 year are 4 bundles per square, the 40 and 50 year are 3
bundles so a little more handling labor is needed. Worth it? If you care
about the long term, certainly. If you are moving out in two years,
probably not.
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Posted by on April 27, 2007, 10:56 am
> > A roofing contractor quoted me a price of $1.75 sq foot to install
> > timberline 30 shingles or Certain Teed woodscape 30 shingles, rounded
> > to $4,000. Is that a fair price? Assuming that is a fair price, does
> > it make sense to upgrade to a better shingle say certain teed landmark
> > 50 shingles? Is the same amount of labor required to install a 50 year
> > shingle as compared to a 30 year shingle? Thanks in advance for your
> > advise.
>
> Price sounds reasonable. Upgrading to a 50 year would have a slight labor
> upgrade. Most 30 year are 4 bundles per square, the 40 and 50 year are 3
> bundles so a little more handling labor is needed. Worth it? If you care
> about the long term, certainly. If you are moving out in two years,
> probably not.
Before I spent more money on shingles, I'd spend it on having the
previous shingles taken
off, so you get a superior install.
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Posted by Lawrence on April 27, 2007, 1:39 pm
On Apr 27, 9:56 am, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
>
> > > A roofing contractor quoted me a price of $1.75 sq foot to install
> > > timberline 30 shingles or Certain Teed woodscape 30 shingles, rounded
> > > to $4,000. Is that a fair price? Assuming that is a fair price, does
> > > it make sense to upgrade to a better shingle say certain teed landmark
> > > 50 shingles? Is the same amount of labor required to install a 50 year
> > > shingle as compared to a 30 year shingle? Thanks in advance for your
> > > advise.
>
> > Price sounds reasonable. Upgrading to a 50 year would have a slight labor
> > upgrade. Most 30 year are 4 bundles per square, the 40 and 50 year are 3
> > bundles so a little more handling labor is needed. Worth it? If you care
> > about the long term, certainly. If you are moving out in two years,
> > probably not.
>
> Before I spent more money on shingles, I'd spend it on having the
> previous shingles taken
> off, so you get a superior install.
Agreed. The tear-off is the most important part of the job in my
experience. I was on a roofing crew and we always did a tear-off so I
assumed we would not consider anything else.
Here's what I learned. There is often water damage to the deck
underneath that needs repair. Also, even if the deck is OK you will
almost always find areas that are wet. Tear-off give you a chance to
dry it out before re-roofing.
Having said that: Tear off can be a tremendous amount of work. The
crew I was on had between 8 and 11 men and we would work on the
biggest roofs. Everyone on the crew including the foreman would work
exclusively on the tear-off and clean-up until the roof was totally
clean. Then the crew would be split between men on the roof and men
on the ground, continuing the clean up.
So, it would have to add a lot of expense to the project when you are
hiring ten men. Some of the roofs I worked on had as many as four
layers including the original wooden shakes!! We filled so many
dumpsters we lost count.
Do not put yourself in that situation.
So buy the good shingles but don't skimp on the tear-off. Some
roofers won't give any warranty without one.
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