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Posted by bob haller on February 20, 2009, 1:47 pm
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> > Howdy,
> > I have an interesting dilemma but first a little background.
> > For seven years I had my woodshop in our one-car attached garage. It wa=
sn't
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> > heated or cooled and not very tight. I live in the midwest with very co=
> > winters and extreemly hot/humid summers. When it rained it would take o=
> > some water from under the doors and I would have standing water until I
> > sopped it up. About twice a year I would put a coat of floor wax on my
> > tablesaw, drill press, band saw, etc. and never, never had a problem wi=
> > rust.
> > Now, since a recent move, I have a metal detached two-car sized buildin=
> > It has a concrete floor, 2x4 framing, and what looks to be galvanized,
> > corregated steel siding and roof. No drywall, no insulation, just the s=
teel
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> > between my tools and the outdoors. I used about 12 cans of spray foam
> > insulation to cut down on the breez and did a lot of caulking, it's act=
ually
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> > pretty tight now.
> > However, my tools are rusting. For a couple of months I would go out ev=
ery
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> > week or so and there would be a fine,even coat of rust on all my power =
tools
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> > (all my other tools are still packed for obvious reasons). Finally I wa=
xed
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> > them all and covered them with cotton duck and that has kept them prett=
> > clean but what do you folks think is happening here? Is there a chemica=
> > reaction with the galvanized steel? Is it condensation, like a glass of=
ice
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> > water sweating? Funny thing is, the building is good and dry. And it's
> > been freakin' cold here for the past few months, very dry air. I'm stum=
ped.
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> > We can't afford to tear it down and put up something nice for a few yea=
> > yet so I'm going to put a few hundred bucks in it by covering the ceili=
> > with plywood and framing up some interior walls with drywall. I'll make=
it
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> > all removable with screws so the materials can be re-used later.
> > So what do you think?
> > -Mac
> In addition to what the other posters have said, you may have it too
> tightly sealed also, therefore allowing it to trap the moisture in the
> shop. Also, using an unvented heater will trap moisture in the shop.
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My wood shed 16 by 20 with 10 foot cieling and 12 foot peak had rust
issues till i left door always open.
this largely solved the problem
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Posted by Ignoramus19266 on February 20, 2009, 1:54 pm
Spray them with rust preventative oil like LPS-2, and also keep it
slightly heated.
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Posted by KLS on February 20, 2009, 8:52 pm
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:48:18 -0800 (PST), "Hustlin' Hank"
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>In addition to what the other posters have said, you may have it too
>tightly sealed also, therefore allowing it to trap the moisture in the
>shop.
This would explain why metal stuff in our detached garage doesn't seem
to rust; it's unheated and quite drafty, so the ventilation must be
helping. The small shed behind it is a different story: bicycles
rust in there, but not in the garage, and I think that's because
there's less ventilation (smaller space, sandwiched between the garage
and a hillock, plus a wood (vs. concrete) floor). Same climate: very
cold winters, moderately humid summers (by Lake Ontario).
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Posted by Phisherman on February 20, 2009, 10:49 pm
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>Howdy,
>I have an interesting dilemma but first a little background.
>For seven years I had my woodshop in our one-car attached garage. It wasn't
>heated or cooled and not very tight. I live in the midwest with very cold
>winters and extreemly hot/humid summers. When it rained it would take on
>some water from under the doors and I would have standing water until I
>sopped it up. About twice a year I would put a coat of floor wax on my
>tablesaw, drill press, band saw, etc. and never, never had a problem with
>rust.
>Now, since a recent move, I have a metal detached two-car sized building.
>It has a concrete floor, 2x4 framing, and what looks to be galvanized,
>corregated steel siding and roof. No drywall, no insulation, just the steel
>between my tools and the outdoors. I used about 12 cans of spray foam
>insulation to cut down on the breez and did a lot of caulking, it's actually
>pretty tight now.
>However, my tools are rusting. For a couple of months I would go out every
>week or so and there would be a fine,even coat of rust on all my power tools
>(all my other tools are still packed for obvious reasons). Finally I waxed
>them all and covered them with cotton duck and that has kept them pretty
>clean but what do you folks think is happening here? Is there a chemical
>reaction with the galvanized steel? Is it condensation, like a glass of ice
>water sweating? Funny thing is, the building is good and dry. And it's
>been freakin' cold here for the past few months, very dry air. I'm stumped.
>We can't afford to tear it down and put up something nice for a few years
>yet so I'm going to put a few hundred bucks in it by covering the ceiling
>with plywood and framing up some interior walls with drywall. I'll make it
>all removable with screws so the materials can be re-used later.
>So what do you think?
>-Mac
Wipe down the metal and painted parts with a kerosene rag. Make sure
there is no muriatic acid in your garage. Salty air or road salt is
bad. Sometimes putting a small light bulb under a cast iron table
will prevent rust by raising the temperature of the metal slightly.
Make sure everything is properly grounded. Etc, etc, ...
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Posted by Ulysses on February 21, 2009, 11:46 am
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> Howdy,
> I have an interesting dilemma but first a little background.
> For seven years I had my woodshop in our one-car attached garage. It
wasn't
show/hide quoted text
> heated or cooled and not very tight. I live in the midwest with very cold
> winters and extreemly hot/humid summers. When it rained it would take on
> some water from under the doors and I would have standing water until I
> sopped it up. About twice a year I would put a coat of floor wax on my
> tablesaw, drill press, band saw, etc. and never, never had a problem with
> rust.
> Now, since a recent move, I have a metal detached two-car sized building.
> It has a concrete floor, 2x4 framing, and what looks to be galvanized,
> corregated steel siding and roof. No drywall, no insulation, just the
steel
show/hide quoted text
> between my tools and the outdoors. I used about 12 cans of spray foam
> insulation to cut down on the breez and did a lot of caulking, it's
actually
show/hide quoted text
> pretty tight now.
> However, my tools are rusting. For a couple of months I would go out
every
show/hide quoted text
> week or so and there would be a fine,even coat of rust on all my power
tools
show/hide quoted text
> (all my other tools are still packed for obvious reasons). Finally I
waxed
show/hide quoted text
> them all and covered them with cotton duck and that has kept them pretty
> clean but what do you folks think is happening here? Is there a chemical
> reaction with the galvanized steel? Is it condensation, like a glass of
ice
show/hide quoted text
> water sweating? Funny thing is, the building is good and dry. And it's
> been freakin' cold here for the past few months, very dry air. I'm
stumped.
show/hide quoted text
> We can't afford to tear it down and put up something nice for a few years
> yet so I'm going to put a few hundred bucks in it by covering the ceiling
> with plywood and framing up some interior walls with drywall. I'll make
> all removable with screws so the materials can be re-used later.
> So what do you think?
> -Mac
All of my gardening tools in my shed were rusting (mainly waferwood shed
with a steel roof). I installed a wind turbine. It made a huge difference.
Basically the shed was destroying itself. Now I have a Rubbermaid shed. I
installed a wind turbine. I do not have a problem with rust.
I have stood below my wind turbines during severe rainstorms and did not
detect even the slightest drizzle coming through to the inside.
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> > I have an interesting dilemma but first a little background.
> > For seven years I had my woodshop in our one-car attached garage. It wa=