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s-trap plug John J 11-29-2006
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Posted by John J on November 29, 2006, 3:34 pm


Hi folks..I have a stopped up bath tub drain. Have removed the lever and
chain from the overflow pipe, and cleaned to no luck. There is a plug on the
trap that is pretty rusty. The trap itself appears to be cast metal. I've
tried removing the plug no luck. Sprayed it with penetrating oil, but
probably not getting into the threads very well. Do you think it is OK to
try heating up the pipe with a torch in hopes of removing that plug, or
should I worry about methane gas in the pipe exploding?...I apologize if
this is a dumb question. But it seems like my last resort to get this thing
fixed. Can't snake past the trap.
Appreciate any help. Thanks.. JJ



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Posted by Speedy Jim on November 29, 2006, 4:20 pm


John J wrote:
> Hi folks..I have a stopped up bath tub drain. Have removed the lever and
> chain from the overflow pipe, and cleaned to no luck. There is a plug on the
> trap that is pretty rusty. The trap itself appears to be cast metal. I've
> tried removing the plug no luck. Sprayed it with penetrating oil, but
> probably not getting into the threads very well. Do you think it is OK to
> try heating up the pipe with a torch in hopes of removing that plug, or
> should I worry about methane gas in the pipe exploding?...I apologize if
> this is a dumb question. But it seems like my last resort to get this thing
> fixed. Can't snake past the trap.
> Appreciate any help. Thanks.. JJ
>
>

I doubt it's an "S" trap, more likely a "drum" trap.
http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/learning/how-to-unclog-drains-toilets-and-sewers.aspx
scroll sown to Fig. 7

I like the "chisel" method shown, though there can be risk of
breaking things.
If there's no danger of fire, heating the casting will help.

You might also try suctioning the drain with a ShopVac.
Plug the overflow opening with wet rags.

Jim

Posted by John J on November 29, 2006, 4:43 pm


Jim..it's definetly not a drum trap..I might be wrong about the S.. probably
a P-trap,.. the plug is a square drive threaded plug, and it's very
rusted...

> John J wrote:
>> Hi folks..I have a stopped up bath tub drain. Have removed the lever and
>> chain from the overflow pipe, and cleaned to no luck. There is a plug on
>> the trap that is pretty rusty. The trap itself appears to be cast metal.
>> I've tried removing the plug no luck. Sprayed it with penetrating oil,
>> but probably not getting into the threads very well. Do you think it is
>> OK to try heating up the pipe with a torch in hopes of removing that
>> plug, or should I worry about methane gas in the pipe exploding?...I
>> apologize if this is a dumb question. But it seems like my last resort to
>> get this thing fixed. Can't snake past the trap.
>> Appreciate any help. Thanks.. JJ
>>
>>
>
> I doubt it's an "S" trap, more likely a "drum" trap.
>
http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/learning/how-to-unclog-drains-toilets-and-sewers.aspx
> scroll sown to Fig. 7
>
> I like the "chisel" method shown, though there can be risk of
> breaking things.
> If there's no danger of fire, heating the casting will help.
>
> You might also try suctioning the drain with a ShopVac.
> Plug the overflow opening with wet rags.
>
> Jim



Posted by Speedy Jim on November 29, 2006, 4:59 pm


John J wrote:

> Jim..it's definetly not a drum trap..I might be wrong about the S.. probably
> a P-trap,.. the plug is a square drive threaded plug, and it's very
> rusted...


Yes, it could be a cast P-trap. The plug would be at
the bottom, no? In that case, it will have water over it
and heating will have zero effect. If the plug happens
to be on top, go ahead and heat it.

If the piping downstream of the trap is easily accessed,
sometimes it's better to just hack out a section and
put a PVC cleanout TEE in using Fernco couplings.
Jim





>
>
>>John J wrote:
>>
>>>Hi folks..I have a stopped up bath tub drain. Have removed the lever and
>>>chain from the overflow pipe, and cleaned to no luck. There is a plug on
>>>the trap that is pretty rusty. The trap itself appears to be cast metal.
>>>I've tried removing the plug no luck. Sprayed it with penetrating oil,
>>>but probably not getting into the threads very well. Do you think it is
>>>OK to try heating up the pipe with a torch in hopes of removing that
>>>plug, or should I worry about methane gas in the pipe exploding?...I
>>>apologize if this is a dumb question. But it seems like my last resort to
>>>get this thing fixed. Can't snake past the trap.
>>>Appreciate any help. Thanks.. JJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I doubt it's an "S" trap, more likely a "drum" trap.
>>http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/learning/how-to-unclog-drains-toilets-and-sewers.aspx
>>scroll sown to Fig. 7
>>
>>I like the "chisel" method shown, though there can be risk of
>>breaking things.
>>If there's no danger of fire, heating the casting will help.
>>
>>You might also try suctioning the drain with a ShopVac.
>>Plug the overflow opening with wet rags.
>>
>>Jim
>
>
>

Posted by BobK207 on November 29, 2006, 5:15 pm



John J wrote:
> Jim..it's definetly not a drum trap..I might be wrong about the S.. probably
> a P-trap,.. the plug is a square drive threaded plug, and it's very
> rusted...
>
> > John J wrote:
> >> Hi folks..I have a stopped up bath tub drain. Have removed the lever and
> >> chain from the overflow pipe, and cleaned to no luck. There is a plug on
> >> the trap that is pretty rusty. The trap itself appears to be cast metal.
> >> I've tried removing the plug no luck. Sprayed it with penetrating oil,
> >> but probably not getting into the threads very well. Do you think it is
> >> OK to try heating up the pipe with a torch in hopes of removing that
> >> plug, or should I worry about methane gas in the pipe exploding?...I
> >> apologize if this is a dumb question. But it seems like my last resort to
> >> get this thing fixed. Can't snake past the trap.
> >> Appreciate any help. Thanks.. JJ
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I doubt it's an "S" trap, more likely a "drum" trap.
> >
http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/learning/how-to-unclog-drains-toilets-and-sewers.aspx
> > scroll sown to Fig. 7
> >
> > I like the "chisel" method shown, though there can be risk of
> > breaking things.
> > If there's no danger of fire, heating the casting will help.
> >
> > You might also try suctioning the drain with a ShopVac.
> > Plug the overflow opening with wet rags.
> >
> > Jim


John-

I assume that since its a bath tub & you have access to the trap you've
got some sort of basement or crawlspace access?

If so, I trick I have used when the plug will not budge.......this
works best with a brass plug in a cast iron fitting.

I drill through the plug to get access to the clog, run the end of a
hand snake w/o the "hook" through the plug & into the clog. Repair the
drilled hole by threading & installing a small plug or pound in a small
taperd lead plug.

Before I went after this with a Sawzall I'd give Jim's ShopVac idea a
try...you might use the shop vac along with an enzyme drain cleaner
that you let sit over night.

Do not use any acid or base drain cleaner before the shop vac idea

cheers
Bob


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