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sears cordless tool batteries Rebel Rouser 11-03-2007
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Posted by Phil-In-Mich. on November 3, 2007, 11:58 am


>I have no prob with sears cordless tools for homeowner use, if you use
> them according to the way they were designed.
> But the battery pacs just plain SUCK.
> They want hold a charge long, just give up the ship to easy. What brand
> of cordless tools has a good battery pac for homeowner use?
>

Won't happen. All cordless batter packs go bad after a few years.

My story: Got one of those Xmas cordless drill specials from Sears in the
mid-1990s. Bought a replacement battery pack around 2000 maybe '01. Now
dead again. Very cheap cordless battery drill packaged with two batteries
at W-M place cheaper than 2nd replacement battery in '06. $32.00 for new
drill and batteries, or $56.00 plus shipping for replacement.

Question: I opened up the original battery pack and inside were just off the
shelf Ni-Cad batteries connected together. So, why hasn't someone come up
with a battery pack with a way to just replace the internal batteries. For
example remove four screws, pop the batteries, insert new batteries, reseal
the battery case, and charge it. (and repeat every 4 to 5 years.)

What, H.F. wouldn't sell such a battery packs? China wouldn't make such a
thing?

I know, I know, cheaper to build and buy new than repair old.

Phil


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Posted by Jim Yanik on November 3, 2007, 12:48 pm

>
>
>>I have no prob with sears cordless tools for homeowner use, if you use
>> them according to the way they were designed.
>> But the battery pacs just plain SUCK.
>> They want hold a charge long, just give up the ship to easy. What
>> brand of cordless tools has a good battery pac for homeowner use?
>>
>
> Won't happen. All cordless batter packs go bad after a few years.
>
> My story: Got one of those Xmas cordless drill specials from Sears in
> the mid-1990s. Bought a replacement battery pack around 2000 maybe
> '01. Now dead again. Very cheap cordless battery drill packaged with
> two batteries at W-M place cheaper than 2nd replacement battery in
> '06. $32.00 for new drill and batteries, or $56.00 plus shipping for
> replacement.
>
> Question: I opened up the original battery pack and inside were just
> off the shelf Ni-Cad batteries connected together. So, why hasn't
> someone come up with a battery pack with a way to just replace the
> internal batteries. For example remove four screws, pop the
> batteries, insert new batteries, reseal the battery case, and charge
> it. (and repeat every 4 to 5 years.)

Because drills draw a higher current,and need a better connection between
cells,thus the welded straps.

For people who only use their cordless drill every couple of months,get a
Li-ion system;they retain a useful charge for about 6 months.
they COST,though.

With NiCds,it's basically "use it or lose it".

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on November 3, 2007, 1:35 pm

>
> Question: I opened up the original battery pack and inside were just off
> the shelf Ni-Cad batteries connected together. So, why hasn't someone
> come up with a battery pack with a way to just replace the internal
> batteries. For example remove four screws, pop the batteries, insert new
> batteries, reseal the battery case, and charge it. (and repeat every 4 to
> 5 years.)

That makes a lot of sense but cut into profits for the toolmaker.

I sent a couple of battery packs to www.primecell.com and got them back
better than new with a higher AH rating. There are quite a few rebuilders
out there.



Posted by willshak on November 3, 2007, 12:03 pm
on 11/3/2007 9:02 AM Rebel Rouser said the following:
> I have no prob with sears cordless tools for homeowner use, if you use
> them according to the way they were designed.
> But the battery pacs just plain SUCK.
> They want hold a charge long, just give up the ship to easy. What brand
> of cordless tools has a good battery pac for homeowner use?
>
> thanks
> mike lane

My 18v Ryobi batteries just died. I have had them for about 4 years and
used the cordless drill for almost everything. With the new lithium-ion
batteries coming out now, the older types are going on sale. I just
bought a twin pack of 18v Ryobi batteries at HD for $40 ($20 each).

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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Posted by patrick mitchel on November 3, 2007, 2:58 pm

> on 11/3/2007 9:02 AM Rebel Rouser said the following:
>> I have no prob with sears cordless tools for homeowner use, if you use
>> them according to the way they were designed.
>> But the battery pacs just plain SUCK.
>> They want hold a charge long, just give up the ship to easy. What brand
>> of cordless tools has a good battery pac for homeowner use?
>> thanks
>> mike lane
>
When you say "don't hold a charge long" do you mean that when in use they
run out in the middle of the job or between jobs(days apart) the batts die.
If yer looking for a drill that last longer on the job, then look for batt
spec that state 2.2 or greater amp hr rating. The good guys come with at
least 2.5 amp/hr batts- some oat 3 amp/hr. The nicads and nimh cells both
discharge while not being used. At one time the preferred batt was nicad for
a heavy disharge (at one point the nimhs couldnt handle getting really hot)
I gather that's pretty much over and the majority of makers have goine to
nimh and are now going to lithium chemistry. Pricier yet than the nimh but
better energy density and lighter to boot. Also supposed to hold a charge
for longer periods . The battery chargers for the various battery
types(nicad,nimh and lithium) are not interchangeable unless they
specifically say so. Pat



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