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Posted by coloradotrout on January 7, 2009, 12:44 pm
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:50:18 -0800 (PST), coloradotrout
> >> >This does not seem right to me -- but it did resolve my issue.
> >> >I have an exterior door that the door used to be 'cocked' a bit in th=
e
> >> >frame such that the weather seal did not seal well all around the
> >> >door. =A0There was a gap along the bottom of the latch side. =A0The b=
otton
> >> >latch side of the door needed to be lifted about 1/8" to make the doo=
r
> >> >fit better into the frame. =A0I added a shim to the bottom hinge --
> >> >pushig the hinge out about 1/8". =A0It's a nice fit all around now.
> >> >I did some checks to see that the frame was perpendicular and it
> >> >checked out ok (plumb bob). =A0I did not chech to see that the top of
> >> >frame was square to the sides nor that the bottom was square to sides=
,
> >> >but visually, the door was just not "square" inside the frame. =A0The
> >> >bottom hinge side ( the hinge I shimmed) fit snug to the frame, while
> >> >the top hinge side was 3/16" open.
> >> >To me, it seemed that the hinges were allowing slightly more or less
> >> >of an opening between the door and the frame - almost like the hinges
> >> >were not the same.
> >> >This is a Jeld-Wen exterior door.
> >> It sounds like the hinge-side jamb has twisted. To fix it:
> >> =A0* Take the door off the hinges.
> >> =A0* Remove the casing (the trim around the opening).
> >> =A0* Remove the screws holding the jamb to the rough opening (or saw
> >> through the nails if that's what's there).
> >> =A0* Put tapered shims behind the hinge points to cause the jamb to be
> >> vertical and square. Use a four- or six-foot level and a good square.
> >> =A0* Drive long screws through the hinges, though the shims, and into =
the
> >> 2x4s of the rough opening. Leave them a little loose so you can adjust
> >> things.
> >> =A0* While you're in there, you might as well do the same thing to the
> >> jamb on the knob side as well.
> >> =A0* Double-check that the top and bottom of the opening are equal.
> >> =A0* Put the door back up.
> >> =A0* Make sure the opening on all sides is consistent. You probably ca=
n't
> >> get it back to the factory condition, so just get it as close as you
> >> can. Also check that it doesn't swing open or closed by itself. This
> >> would be an indication that something isn't plumb.
> >> =A0* Drive all the screws down tight, and check everything one more ti=
me.
> >> =A0* Put the casing back on, fill nail holes, caulk edges, and paint.
> >> --
> >> Steve Bell
> >> New Life Home Improvement
> >> Arlington, TX USA- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >I initially thought the same thing, but now I'm really thinking the
> >issue is with the hinges themselves. =A0It's like the top and middle
> >hinges don't close together as closely as that bottom hinge?
> >I was about to undertake the procedure you outlined (but thanks for
> >detailed instructions in case I need to do this), but when I look down
> >at the hinges, the bottom hinge plates are closer together than the
> >middle and top.
> >Ah.. but I just took a measurment from hinge side frame to lock side
> >frame. =A0At the top it measures 36", at the center, it's 36-2/16" and
> >bottom it's about 36-3/16", so it's spreading out top to bottom.
> >Sounds like I need to do the procedure afterall. =A0At least for now, it
> >seals up better.
> Sounds like the jamb is bowed. When is was installed and over fastened
> it pulled the jamb inward towards the RO studs. =A0Use a level on each
> side =A0jamb and both sides of the stop. See a difference in space
> behind the level?
> If it's bowed like you mention then pull the door casing off and
> gently pry the jamb out where need be to remove the bow. Shims may be
> needed...- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah.. looks like when weather warms up, I'll be pulling off the
interior/exterior trim and truing up the frame. That should give me
an even snugger fit.
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>> >I have an exterior door that the door used to be 'cocked' a bit in the
>> >frame such that the weather seal did not seal well all around the
>> >door. There was a gap along the bottom of the latch side. The botton
>> >latch side of the door needed to be lifted about 1/8" to make the door
>> >fit better into the frame. I added a shim to the bottom hinge --
>> >pushig the hinge out about 1/8". It's a nice fit all around now.
>> >I did some checks to see that the frame was perpendicular and it
>> >checked out ok (plumb bob). I did not chech to see that the top of
>> >frame was square to the sides nor that the bottom was square to sides,
>> >but visually, the door was just not "square" inside the frame. The
>> >bottom hinge side ( the hinge I shimmed) fit snug to the frame, while
>> >the top hinge side was 3/16" open.
>> >To me, it seemed that the hinges were allowing slightly more or less
>> >of an opening between the door and the frame - almost like the hinges
>> >were not the same.
>> >This is a Jeld-Wen exterior door.