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strengthen a header? TP 08-13-2005
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Posted by TP on August 13, 2005, 2:46 am


I have two 2x10’s 18 feet long supported in the middle by one
2x4. Windows are now in these openings. I’d like to remove the
center 2x4 and replace the windows with a 16’x 7’ garage door.
What size (thickness) flitch plate would be needed to strengthen
the 2x10’s to support the open span? (Keeping within the 9¼”
height.) Single story, 4/12 roof, rafters are perpendicular to
header. No live load, just ceiling joist. Snow load for western
NY. Next wall parallel to header is 22’feet away.

Thanks
TP


Posted by on August 13, 2005, 1:28 am



> I have two 2x10’s 18 feet long supported in the middle by one 2x4.

If the 2x4 post supports its maximum load, say 1.5x3.5x1000 = 5250 pounds,
the beam might have an equivalent uniform load of 583 lb/ft, according to

http://www.toolbase.org/Docs/MainNav/WoodFrameConstruction/2947_flitchplate.pdf?TrackID=3D0&CategoryID=3D1153&DocumentID=3D2947

>What size (thickness) flitch plate would be needed to strengthen
>the 2x10’s to support the open span?

You may be out of flitch territory and into something like a 10"x5" I-beam.

>Single story, 4/12 roof, rafters are perpendicular to header. No live load,
>just ceiling joist. Snow load for western NY. Next wall parallel to header
>is 22’feet away.

Hard to picture that. What's the load on the beam?

You might seek professional help...

Nick



Posted by Rick on August 13, 2005, 6:34 am



> I have two 2x10’s 18 feet long supported in the middle by one
> 2x4. Windows are now in these openings. I’d like to remove the
> center 2x4 and replace the windows with a 16’x 7’ garage door.
> What size (thickness) flitch plate would be needed to strengthen
> the 2x10’s to support the open span? (Keeping within the 9¼”
> height.) Single story, 4/12 roof, rafters are perpendicular to
> header. No live load, just ceiling joist. Snow load for western
> NY. Next wall parallel to header is 22’feet away.
>
> Thanks
> TP

The calculations to determine the individual tributary loads and the
resultant header load are pretty straightforward, the flitch plate
calculations a little more involved. I don't think you are going to
find anyone on a newsgroup (even a PE) who will be willing to give
you an absolute answer.

I'd suggest you contact a local engineer...




Posted by Rick on August 13, 2005, 1:29 pm



>
> > I have two 2x10's 18 feet long supported in the middle by one
> > 2x4. Windows are now in these openings. I'd like to remove the
> > center 2x4 and replace the windows with a 16'x 7' garage door.
> > What size (thickness) flitch plate would be needed to strengthen
> > the 2x10's to support the open span? (Keeping within the 9¼"
> > height.) Single story, 4/12 roof, rafters are perpendicular to
> > header. No live load, just ceiling joist. Snow load for western
> > NY. Next wall parallel to header is 22'feet away.
> >
> > Thanks
> > TP
>
> The calculations to determine the individual tributary loads and the
> resultant header load are pretty straightforward, the flitch plate
> calculations a little more involved. I don't think you are going to
> find anyone on a newsgroup (even a PE) who will be willing to give
> you an absolute answer.
>
> I'd suggest you contact a local engineer...

And a more complete deescription would be needed-any roof overhangs,
roof style, stick or truss framed roof, etc. To many thngs not
mentioned.

If I'm not mistaken, a ceiling live load has to be applied to any
space with a headroom greater than 42 inches. I would imagine snow
load is at least 50 PSF in western NY. The local authority would tell
you that value.

Again, call a local...
>
>




Posted by TP on August 13, 2005, 6:59 pm


This is the same info given to the Glulam (paralam) company.
They spec’d 3, 1 1/2”x 9 1/2” GluLam beam. I would just like to
use steel to bring the 2x10’s to the same spec.


Rick wrote:
>
>>
>>> I have two 2x10's 18 feet long supported in the middle by one
>>>2x4. Windows are now in these openings. I'd like to remove the
>>>center 2x4 and replace the windows with a 16'x 7' garage door.
>>>What size (thickness) flitch plate would be needed to strengthen
>>>the 2x10's to support the open span? (Keeping within the 9¼"
>>>height.) Single story, 4/12 roof, rafters are perpendicular to
>>>header. No live load, just ceiling joist. Snow load for western
>>>NY. Next wall parallel to header is 22'feet away.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>TP
>>
>>The calculations to determine the individual tributary loads and the
>>resultant header load are pretty straightforward, the flitch plate
>>calculations a little more involved. I don't think you are going to
>>find anyone on a newsgroup (even a PE) who will be willing to give
>>you an absolute answer.
>>
>>I'd suggest you contact a local engineer...
>
>
> And a more complete deescription would be needed-any roof overhangs,
> roof style, stick or truss framed roof, etc. To many thngs not
> mentioned.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, a ceiling live load has to be applied to any
> space with a headroom greater than 42 inches. I would imagine snow
> load is at least 50 PSF in western NY. The local authority would tell
> you that value.
>
> Again, call a local...
>
>>
>
>


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