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Posted by Mikepier on May 5, 2008, 4:40 pm
Well, I finally got to strip most of the front door today. I think it
looks more like mahogany than oak.
http://picasaweb.google.com/mikerock92/StrippingFrontDoor
The Rock Miracle stuff did not work as I thought it would. It took a
lot of effort to take off the varnish and stain. I sanded down the
flat parts, but the moldings in the panels are almost impossible to
take off anything. I was thinking maybe paint the inside of the panels
and stain the rest of the door. Any suggestions how to take out the
rest of the varnish? thanks
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Posted by ransley on May 5, 2008, 4:48 pm
> Well, I finally got to strip most of the front door today. I think it
> looks more like mahogany than oak.http://picasaweb.google.com/mikerock92/S=
trippingFrontDoor
>
> The Rock Miracle stuff did not work as I thought it would. It took a
> lot of effort to take off the varnish and stain. I sanded down the
> flat parts, but the moldings in the panels are almost impossible to
> take off anything. I was thinking maybe paint the inside of the panels
> and stain the rest of the door. Any suggestions how to take out the
> rest of the varnish? thanks
try a marine or heavy duty stripper, go to a paint store. The work is
in the details, there are tools for stripping wood that are of various
shapes you sharpen with a file for curved areas. Actualy I saw at
maybe menards or HD an electric hand tool with various shape sanding
heads for molding sanding, forget the paint idea.
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Posted by Norminn on May 5, 2008, 6:09 pm
Mikepier wrote:
>Well, I finally got to strip most of the front door today. I think it
>looks more like mahogany than oak.
>http://picasaweb.google.com/mikerock92/StrippingFrontDoor
>
>The Rock Miracle stuff did not work as I thought it would. It took a
>lot of effort to take off the varnish and stain. I sanded down the
>flat parts, but the moldings in the panels are almost impossible to
>take off anything. I was thinking maybe paint the inside of the panels
>and stain the rest of the door. Any suggestions how to take out the
>rest of the varnish? thanks
>
>
I have tried other strippers a couple of times, with poor results, so I
always go back to
methylene chloride semi-paste, Strypeeze if I can find it. MC is nasty
stuff. Some of them have instructions
to use water wash, but I use mineral spirits. I have found no finish
that will not come off
with it. It also eats plastic, so take care. The door doesn't look
quite like oak, but the
pix not close enough for me to tell. Pretty. Now that you have sanded
the frame, stripping
the panels and molding may make them turn out a tad darker than the
frame if you stain. Strypeeze, a toothbrush,
lots of steel wool and mineral spirits should work. I went to using
little plastic sandwich
bags for the steel-wool/stripper scrubbing part because stripper eats
gloves so quickly.
Stripper burns like fire on skin, but I have never had it leave a mark
or irritation. I would
be inclined to paint the whole door, especially if it gets strong sun.
Personal choice. You
would still have to strip the remaining wood or do a lot of tedious sanding.
I'm not familiar with Rock Miracle, so I looked at their website. Which
product did you
use?
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Posted by Mikepier on May 5, 2008, 8:04 pm
> I'm not familiar with Rock Miracle, so I looked at their website. =A0Which=
> product did you
> use?
This is the product I used
http://www.rockmiracle.com/productdetail.asp?cid=3D8&pid=3D45
It is a methylene chloride paste like you mentioned, but like I said
it did not come off easy on the flat parts of the door.
For the molding, I tried using my plumbers torch to heat the old
varnish a bit, then use a soft wire brush, but it seemed not to come
off clean plus I had to be careful not to burn the wood.
I do have a Dremel tool. Just a basic model. Maybe they have bits for
this purpose?
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Posted by Norminn on May 5, 2008, 10:06 pm
Mikepier wrote:
>>I'm not familiar with Rock Miracle, so I looked at their website. Which
>>product did you
>>use?
>>
>>
>
>This is the product I used
>http://www.rockmiracle.com/productdetail.asp?cid=8&pid=45
>
>It is a methylene chloride paste like you mentioned, but like I said
>it did not come off easy on the flat parts of the door.
>For the molding, I tried using my plumbers torch to heat the old
>varnish a bit, then use a soft wire brush, but it seemed not to come
>off clean plus I had to be careful not to burn the wood.
>I do have a Dremel tool. Just a basic model. Maybe they have bits for
>this purpose?
>
>
A sanding bit might work, but likely to gouge the wood. I'm allergic to
sanding, so I rarely do it. When I refinish wood, I
scrub the final application of stripper with steel wool (medium), remove
that, and then clean
off the stripper with fine steel wool and mineral spirits. Messy, messy
job. The stripper
softens the wood just a tad, so the steel wool makes it plenty smoothe.
I would suggest
trying another brand of stripper, semi-paste methylene chloride that
labels for cleaning
with mineral spirits. As I said, some suggest either water or m.s.
wash. Just out of
curiosity, Is Rock Miracle from a specialty store? I can't imagine why
stripper would remove
the finish from part of the door but not the other. Did you leave it on
for at least 20 min?
Work in hot sun? It has to be a thick coat, and if you see a spot has
evaporated, apply more.
Can't brush it on thin, it has to be very thick and puddly.
The most coats of paint that I could count, because of color changes,
was siz. No problem,
ever, getting any kind of coating off.
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