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Posted by Evodawg on July 3, 2005, 3:16 pm
G Henslee wrote:
> Evodawg wrote:
>
>> G Henslee wrote:
>>
>>> Rudy once more attempts justification when he wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ours is 3/4" "structurefloor" an engineered OSB type product which
>>>> is attached to the 16" OC 11.5" TJI's by screws and construction
>>>> adhesive.
>>>> Over that, the tile guy glued and stapled (used almost 2 boxes
>>>> ~10,000 staples) 3/8" ply and then tiled. In some of the $500K- 1M
>>>> homes in the area, the General has him use a 3/8" dense medium
>>>> grained chipboard (not MDF, Hardibacker or OSB) the name of which I
>>>> can't recall right now, over the 3/4 stuff. The stuff is dense
>>>> alright but has little structural strength. You can snap it with
>>>> your hands. It runs about $ 7.00 a sheet so I went with the ply for
>>>> a few bucks more for the added strength.
>>>> Been in the house for over a year and it works for us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Rudy the Screwed homeowner,
>>> Technically, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Your
>>> advice is flawed at best, and your ignorance shows every time you
>>> wail about using plywood or chipboard as you attempt to justify the
>>> screwing you got regarding your tile substrate.
>>>
>>> <For the OP>
>>> The purpose of an acceptable tile substrate is not to provide
>>> structural strentgh. Structural strength is designed and built-in to
>>> the subfloor prior to the finish floor substrate. The finish floor
>>> substrate needs to supply an even, flat, and flex-free base for the
>>> tile or stone. The TCA, tile manufacturers worldwide, and every
>>> engineer/ architect, tile professional, etc, I've ever known or dealt
>>> with advises against using chipboard, particle board, luan, most
>>> plywoods, etc for tile substrates.
>>>
>>> <For the screwed homeowner>
>>> $500K- 1M doesn't mean shit. To think that the price of the house
>>> (in todays world) means one is guaranteed that non-inferior
>>> workmanship and/ or materials will be produced throughout the house
>>> is absurd. Once again, your justification(s) for having an inferior
>>> tile substrate are worthless.
>>>
>>> You're developing quite an inferiorioty complex about the inferior
>>> substrate your 'General' stuck you with Rudy. I bet we'll never here
>>> a peep out of you around here when the grout starts cracking. If
>>> this is a tract development, you and your neighbors will be screaming
>>> class action law suit very soon.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> BTW, Some of the "experts" here said the 3/8 wasn't adequate. I'm
>>>> sure they'll sound off here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Always glad to help the ignorant, correct the morons that sound off
>>> here, and support and add to those that give correct advice based
>>> upon experience and knowledge of home building and repair. If that's
>>> an 'expert' then so be it and I am one. You're not.
>>>
>>> Meantime, check out some decent attorneys and for pete's sake Rudy,
>>> quit showing us your ass about this topic every time it comes up.
>>>
>>> -end of conversation-
>>
>>
>>
>> geeee I hope I gave the right advice, would hate to get flamed by
>> you. hahaha ... I do this type of work and yes I have had to replace
>> bath floors which were installed wrong by Jose and Jos B. If the floor
>> is not sturdy the grout will crack. 3/4" and 1/4" hardy should be ok
>> if the floor joist are 16" on centers.
>>
>> Rich
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>
> No chance Rich. This other guy and his "I got screwed with it so it has
> to be good" attitude doesn't cut it.
Got cha, I came in late on the whole thread, so not sure what has
happened in the past. ; )
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