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surface mount receptacles mm 12-28-2006
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Posted by mm on December 28, 2006, 2:13 am


I was in HD and Lowes this week looking to buy a simple surface-mount
110 volt 10 or 15 amp receptacle, and they don't seem to have any.
What's going on?

They had loads of different designs of receptacles for inside walls,
but not surface-mount.

I didn't get to ACE yet. It's fairly far from me. Is there any point
to going?

Actually what I really want is a surface mount 6-outlet receptacle.
Did they ever make such a thing? Do they make it now?


P.S. Ebay has one:
http://item.express.ebay.com/Home-Garden_Building-Hardware_Electrical-Fixtures-Supplies_Brown-Leviton-Surface-Mount-Receptacle-Outlet-15A-91_W0QQitemZ250037492579QQihZ015QQptdnZElectricalQ20FixturesQ20Q26Q20SuppliesQQddnZHomeQ20Q26Q20GardenQQadnZBuildingQ20Q26Q20HardwareQQcmdZExpressItem
It's only $1.49 plus 3.95 shipping! but I should be able to buy this
in a store, like God intended. And it says it's new old stock.
Isn't there new new stock?

AppliancePartsPros.com, Inc.
Posted by David Nebenzahl on December 28, 2006, 2:39 am


mm spake thus:

> I was in HD and Lowes this week looking to buy a simple surface-mount
> 110 volt 10 or 15 amp receptacle, and they don't seem to have any.
> What's going on?
>
> They had loads of different designs of receptacles for inside walls,
> but not surface-mount.
>
> I didn't get to ACE yet. It's fairly far from me. Is there any point
> to going?
>
> Actually what I really want is a surface mount 6-outlet receptacle.
> Did they ever make such a thing? Do they make it now?
>
> P.S. Ebay has one:
>
http://item.express.ebay.com/Home-Garden_Building-Hardware_Electrical-Fixtures-Supplies_Brown-Leviton-Surface-Mount-Receptacle-Outlet-15A-91_W0QQitemZ250037492579QQihZ015QQptdnZElectricalQ20FixturesQ20Q26Q20SuppliesQQddnZHomeQ20Q26Q20GardenQQadnZBuildingQ20Q26Q20HardwareQQcmdZExpressItem
> It's only $1.49 plus 3.95 shipping! but I should be able to buy this
> in a store, like God intended. And it says it's new old stock.
> Isn't there new new stock?

Maybe there shouldn't be.

It took me a minute to figure out just what this was from the eBay
pictures. Now I remember these infamous devices from way back in the
60s. Used to see them screwed (or even nailed) to walls in people's
basements, or in cheaply-built places. Are these even legal anymore?
Handy, maybe, but so too are those cheap torchiere lamps I like to call
"firestarters" ...


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Posted by dpb on December 28, 2006, 9:57 am


David Nebenzahl wrote:
> mm spake thus:
>
...
> > ..._Brown-Leviton-Surface-Mount-Receptacle-Outlet-15A-...
>
> Maybe there shouldn't be.
>
> It took me a minute to figure out just what this was from the eBay
> pictures. Now I remember these infamous devices from way back in the
> 60s. Used to see them screwed (or even nailed) to walls in people's
> basements, or in cheaply-built places. Are these even legal anymore?
...

Surface mount fixtures go back far farther than the 60s, like to the
original days of interior wiring.

These are a UL-listed device and are no different functionally nor
electrically than a 15A receptacle for box mounting.

As another recent thread reminded us, there are no shortages of poor
installations for any type of fixture or receptacle, so any perceived
fault lies in the installer/installation, not the device itself.

In their defense, I bought a case of them for future applications in
outbuildings where surface mount is the convenient way to mount them.
The only disadvantage of this particular design as compared to some of
the older models is that these are not designed for continuous runs,
receptacle to receptacle, as a standard receptacle.


Posted by David Nebenzahl on December 28, 2006, 2:45 pm


dpb spake thus:

> David Nebenzahl wrote:
>
>>mm spake thus:
>
> ...
>
>>>..._Brown-Leviton-Surface-Mount-Receptacle-Outlet-15A-...
>>
>>Maybe there shouldn't be.
>>
>>It took me a minute to figure out just what this was from the eBay
>>pictures. Now I remember these infamous devices from way back in the
>>60s. Used to see them screwed (or even nailed) to walls in people's
>>basements, or in cheaply-built places. Are these even legal anymore?
>
> ...
>
> Surface mount fixtures go back far farther than the 60s, like to the
> original days of interior wiring.
>
> These are a UL-listed device and are no different functionally nor
> electrically than a 15A receptacle for box mounting.
>
> As another recent thread reminded us, there are no shortages of poor
> installations for any type of fixture or receptacle, so any perceived
> fault lies in the installer/installation, not the device itself.
>
> In their defense, I bought a case of them for future applications in
> outbuildings where surface mount is the convenient way to mount them.
> The only disadvantage of this particular design as compared to some of
> the older models is that these are not designed for continuous runs,
> receptacle to receptacle, as a standard receptacle.

Yes, well, maybe I was a bit harsh there. I could see how they could be
used safely. The only thing that really bugs me is using exposed "soft"
(i.e., Romex) cabling; this is how they're supposed to be connected,
right? But even that is an improvement over some installations: brings
to mind a scene from the great movie "Gadjo Dilo" where the gypsies
(Roma) steal electricity by running wires from the overhead cables
directly into their houses ...


--
Just as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really
care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when
you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge.

- Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm)

Posted by RBM on December 28, 2006, 7:08 am


You can buy decent surface mount raceway and outlet boxes made by Wiremold.
Any electrical supply would carry it



>I was in HD and Lowes this week looking to buy a simple surface-mount
> 110 volt 10 or 15 amp receptacle, and they don't seem to have any.
> What's going on?
>
> They had loads of different designs of receptacles for inside walls,
> but not surface-mount.
>
> I didn't get to ACE yet. It's fairly far from me. Is there any point
> to going?
>
> Actually what I really want is a surface mount 6-outlet receptacle.
> Did they ever make such a thing? Do they make it now?
>
>
> P.S. Ebay has one:
>
http://item.express.ebay.com/Home-Garden_Building-Hardware_Electrical-Fixtures-Supplies_Brown-Leviton-Surface-Mount-Receptacle-Outlet-15A-91_W0QQitemZ250037492579QQihZ015QQptdnZElectricalQ20FixturesQ20Q26Q20SuppliesQQddnZHomeQ20Q26Q20GardenQQadnZBuildingQ20Q26Q20HardwareQQcmdZExpressItem
> It's only $1.49 plus 3.95 shipping! but I should be able to buy this
> in a store, like God intended. And it says it's new old stock.
> Isn't there new new stock?



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