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tapcon hell hobosalesman 06-29-2007
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Posted by on June 29, 2007, 3:45 pm
Anyone have experience with small tapcon concrete screws? 1/4" head,
about 2" length. I can't get them in. I tried a socket, all my weight
on it, I'm lucky to get 2 turns before it strips. Why they put such a
low profile hex head on something that needs this much force is beyond
me. Whatever this blue coating is doesn't help I'm sure. Then I move
on to a flat head screwdriver, takes all my strength and weight to
turn it, 5 minutes later it's 1/2" in and then the slot is chewed
open. So then I grab the vice grips, clamp it and start turning, the
head snaps off within a few turns, it's not even an inch in. I drill
the holes an extra inch deeper and blow it out with compressed air,
makes no difference. I'm using the bit that came with the screws.

WTF? Am I missing something? This is run of the mill garage floor
concrete, the direction say drill a damn hole and use a screwdriver to
sink it in? Should I try oil lubrication? My floor has several holes
with snapped off anchors now.


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Posted by tom on June 29, 2007, 4:18 pm
On Jun 29, 12:45 pm, hobosales...@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone have experience with small tapcon concrete screws? 1/4" head,
> about 2" length. I can't get them in. I tried a socket, all my weight
> on it, I'm lucky to get 2 turns before it strips. Why they put such a
> low profile hex head on something that needs this much force is beyond
> me. Whatever this blue coating is doesn't help I'm sure. Then I move
> on to a flat head screwdriver, takes all my strength and weight to
> turn it, 5 minutes later it's 1/2" in and then the slot is chewed
> open. So then I grab the vice grips, clamp it and start turning, the
> head snaps off within a few turns, it's not even an inch in. I drill
> the holes an extra inch deeper and blow it out with compressed air,
> makes no difference. I'm using the bit that came with the screws.
>
> WTF? Am I missing something? This is run of the mill garage floor
> concrete, the direction say drill a damn hole and use a screwdriver to
> sink it in? Should I try oil lubrication? My floor has several holes
> with snapped off anchors now.

I've had better luck by cleaning the hole that's drilled _very_ well.
Tom


Posted by Colbyt on June 29, 2007, 6:38 pm

> On Jun 29, 12:45 pm, hobosales...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Anyone have experience with small tapcon concrete screws? 1/4" head,
>> about 2" length. I can't get them in. I tried a socket, all my weight
>> on it, I'm lucky to get 2 turns before it strips. Why they put such a
>> low profile hex head on something that needs this much force is beyond
>> me. Whatever this blue coating is doesn't help I'm sure. Then I move
>> on to a flat head screwdriver, takes all my strength and weight to
>> turn it, 5 minutes later it's 1/2" in and then the slot is chewed
>> open. So then I grab the vice grips, clamp it and start turning, the
>> head snaps off within a few turns, it's not even an inch in. I drill
>> the holes an extra inch deeper and blow it out with compressed air,
>> makes no difference. I'm using the bit that came with the screws.
>>
>> WTF? Am I missing something? This is run of the mill garage floor
>> concrete, the direction say drill a damn hole and use a screwdriver to
>> sink it in? Should I try oil lubrication? My floor has several holes
>> with snapped off anchors now.
>
> I've had better luck by cleaning the hole that's drilled _very_ well.
> Tom
>

To add a little to what Tom said, holes in floors do not allow the dust to
be pulled out with the bit. A once over with a shop vac and crevice tool
helps a lot.

You are using the bit made for tapcons? It is a custom size.

Colbyt



Posted by Dave Bugg on June 29, 2007, 7:04 pm
Colbyt wrote:
>> On Jun 29, 12:45 pm, hobosales...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Anyone have experience with small tapcon concrete screws? 1/4" head,
>>> about 2" length. I can't get them in. I tried a socket, all my
>>> weight on it, I'm lucky to get 2 turns before it strips. Why they
>>> put such a low profile hex head on something that needs this much
>>> force is beyond me. Whatever this blue coating is doesn't help I'm
>>> sure. Then I move on to a flat head screwdriver, takes all my
>>> strength and weight to turn it, 5 minutes later it's 1/2" in and
>>> then the slot is chewed open. So then I grab the vice grips, clamp
>>> it and start turning, the head snaps off within a few turns, it's
>>> not even an inch in. I drill the holes an extra inch deeper and
>>> blow it out with compressed air, makes no difference. I'm using the
>>> bit that came with the screws. WTF? Am I missing something? This is run
>>> of the mill garage floor
>>> concrete, the direction say drill a damn hole and use a screwdriver
>>> to sink it in? Should I try oil lubrication? My floor has several
>>> holes with snapped off anchors now.
>>
>> I've had better luck by cleaning the hole that's drilled _very_ well.
>> Tom
>>
>
> To add a little to what Tom said, holes in floors do not allow the
> dust to be pulled out with the bit. A once over with a shop vac and
> crevice tool helps a lot.

He stated that he blew out the hole with compressed air, which works just
fine.

> You are using the bit made for tapcons? It is a custom size.

He stated that he used the bit that came with the Tapcons.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com



Posted by RicodJour on June 29, 2007, 4:34 pm
On Jun 29, 3:45 pm, hobosales...@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone have experience with small tapcon concrete screws? 1/4" head,
> about 2" length. I can't get them in. I tried a socket, all my weight
> on it, I'm lucky to get 2 turns before it strips. Why they put such a
> low profile hex head on something that needs this much force is beyond
> me. Whatever this blue coating is doesn't help I'm sure. Then I move
> on to a flat head screwdriver, takes all my strength and weight to
> turn it, 5 minutes later it's 1/2" in and then the slot is chewed
> open. So then I grab the vice grips, clamp it and start turning, the
> head snaps off within a few turns, it's not even an inch in. I drill
> the holes an extra inch deeper and blow it out with compressed air,
> makes no difference. I'm using the bit that came with the screws.
>
> WTF? Am I missing something? This is run of the mill garage floor
> concrete, the direction say drill a damn hole and use a screwdriver to
> sink it in? Should I try oil lubrication? My floor has several holes
> with snapped off anchors now.

They work much better with impact drivers. You may also have one of
_those_ slabs that are harder than hell. In that case there are
better fasteners. http://www.itw-redhead.com/redidrive_prod01.asp

R


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