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washer and dryers stevie 04-25-2006
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on April 26, 2006, 8:15 am
the costs saved in water, fuel to heat water and sewage will never
equal the upfront costs:( Plus front loaders are less friendly to load
and unload, often require a extra cost pedastal, and even with the
extended warranty at 5 years repair costs can be @#$ how old is your
present washer and dryer?

whats repair costs been for them?

I have a bosch DISHWASHER, quet cleans great and has broke down twice
in 3 years both requiring expensive parts replacement:( Bosch
dishwashers are rated dead last for reability by consumer
reports....dont know about their clothes washers

LG has a interesting unit its a washer dryer combo. load clothes, push
button they come back washed and dried, no moving of stuff from one
machine to another. Very convenient but I have never talked to a owner

The push to energy saving appliances is wonderful if its at least close
to being cost effective. Sadly front loaders arent there yet:(

EXCEPT for the marketing department... rather than spending 700 bucks
for a laundry pair they get 2 or 3 times that out of you, and higher
cost products usually have bigger profit margins, let alone the
downstream income on parts and service once the warranty expires....

for the manufacturer its wonderful!

sears has some top load no agitator models that use less water you
might investigate that.....

let us know what you finally select i am curious...


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Posted by stevie on April 26, 2006, 9:48 am
i should mention that my present washer & dryer are 22 years old. they are
maytags and still running ok.

service on these units has been minimal, but i don't believe that will be
the case with present day maytags.

my thinking (which might be flawed) was to sell my present machines while
they still work ok. it would be difficult to sell them if they had
problems. then use what money received from old machines to apply to new
ones.

several sales persons have said that present day machines will last about
10-12 years. i know that almost all manufacturers have reduced warranties
to 1 year. i guess retailers persuaded them that reducing manufacturer
warranty would result in greater sales of extended warranties.
the costs saved in water, fuel to heat water and sewage will never
equal the upfront costs:( Plus front loaders are less friendly to load
and unload, often require a extra cost pedastal, and even with the
extended warranty at 5 years repair costs can be @#$ how old is your
present washer and dryer?

whats repair costs been for them?

I have a bosch DISHWASHER, quet cleans great and has broke down twice
in 3 years both requiring expensive parts replacement:( Bosch
dishwashers are rated dead last for reability by consumer
reports....dont know about their clothes washers

LG has a interesting unit its a washer dryer combo. load clothes, push
button they come back washed and dried, no moving of stuff from one
machine to another. Very convenient but I have never talked to a owner

The push to energy saving appliances is wonderful if its at least close
to being cost effective. Sadly front loaders arent there yet:(

EXCEPT for the marketing department... rather than spending 700 bucks
for a laundry pair they get 2 or 3 times that out of you, and higher
cost products usually have bigger profit margins, let alone the
downstream income on parts and service once the warranty expires....

for the manufacturer its wonderful!

sears has some top load no agitator models that use less water you
might investigate that.....

let us know what you finally select i am curious...



Posted by Mark on April 26, 2006, 8:57 am
Just bought a new clothes washer...bought a Fisher and Paykel which is made
in New Zealand. Good thing about this one is that it uses about the same
amount of water as a front loader, and when it spins, it spins at 1000 RPM
where as other top loaders spin at approx. 600 RPM. The clothes come out of
the spin cycle pretty dry. And, what used to take an hour of dryer time
now takes less than 40 minutes. Take a look at this washer before you drop
money on a Bosch....still using the same old Maytag dryer.

Mark


>I am considering getting a new clothes washer and dryer and I'm looking at
> the front loaders for the energy savings. When I purchase, I'll probably
> get the extended warranty to 5 years.
>
> I have looked at various brands. At this point, the Bosch washer/dryer
> from
> Lowes seems to be the best price. The Lowes 5 year warranty (actually 4
> years added on) is $140.
>
> I kind of ruled out Maytag Neptune because of reliability; also understand
> there was a class action lawsuit against the Neptunes.
>
> Sears Kenmore might be OK, but 5 year warranty costs are pretty high.
> Kenmore reliability seems to be good.
>
> For some reason, I haven't seen too many Whirlpool front loaders. I
> wasn't
> sure about the LG brand; Home Depot sells them. I don't know how reliable
> LG is. The Sears salesman said that GE washers/dryers are made by LG.
>
> Does anyone have experience with the Bosch brand? The Bosch front load
> washer and dryer at Lowes both had stainless steel drums. I have noticed
> that most front load washers have stainless drums, but not all dryers.
>
> Is it really worth the extra costs associated with front load washers? In
> about a year, our household will just be my wife and I, so I'm not sure we
> really need a front load washer. Maybe a conventional top loader will do
> for us.
>
> Thanks for any replies and/or opinions.
>
>
>
>



Posted by Art on April 26, 2006, 9:26 am

I bought a Maytag Neptune front loader washer 8 years ago. We used it 5
years then gave it to my parents when they moved to the area. We bought a
Kenmore Whirlpool front loader to replace it. It is slightly bigger and
that is why we bought it. We wash a king size comforter often.


I see one model of the Maytag Neptune front loaders selling for around $650
at Lowes and Home Depot. The one we gave to my parents only broke once in 8
years so at $650 I would definitely buy it again now. We paid about $1000
when we bought it. I would not be too concerned about the repair issue.
Like I said we had only one repair in 8 years. Some people had mildew
problems and some had control panel and door lock problems. Those issues
were all redesigned long ago and most people who complained to Maytag got
theirs upgraded for free. We did. The lawsuit actually screwed things up
for people. It set cut off dates for the free upgrades.

The first Kenmore Whirlpool washer we had was replaced by Sears because of a
bad welding job at the factory and bad pump. They are very vibration prone
and if you don't have a strong floor, forget it.


At the cost of repairs these days, I am now buying appliances at Lowes
because of their cheap 4 year service agreements.

>I am considering getting a new clothes washer and dryer and I'm looking at
> the front loaders for the energy savings. When I purchase, I'll probably
> get the extended warranty to 5 years.
>
> I have looked at various brands. At this point, the Bosch washer/dryer
> from
> Lowes seems to be the best price. The Lowes 5 year warranty (actually 4
> years added on) is $140.
>
> I kind of ruled out Maytag Neptune because of reliability; also understand
> there was a class action lawsuit against the Neptunes.
>
> Sears Kenmore might be OK, but 5 year warranty costs are pretty high.
> Kenmore reliability seems to be good.
>
> For some reason, I haven't seen too many Whirlpool front loaders. I
> wasn't
> sure about the LG brand; Home Depot sells them. I don't know how reliable
> LG is. The Sears salesman said that GE washers/dryers are made by LG.
>
> Does anyone have experience with the Bosch brand? The Bosch front load
> washer and dryer at Lowes both had stainless steel drums. I have noticed
> that most front load washers have stainless drums, but not all dryers.
>
> Is it really worth the extra costs associated with front load washers? In
> about a year, our household will just be my wife and I, so I'm not sure we
> really need a front load washer. Maybe a conventional top loader will do
> for us.
>
> Thanks for any replies and/or opinions.
>
>
>
>



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