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washer pumps out too fast - what to do? Doug Lassiter 05-27-2006
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Posted by Nonnymus on May 27, 2006, 5:26 pm
Doug Lassiter wrote:
> We have a GE "extra heavy duty large capacity" washing machine that has

Have you considered placing a restriction in the line
between the washer and the wall? Since the washer's pump is
probably on a float and not just a timer, reducing the flow
might be a stopgap measure. I would have no problem pumping
the water to the yard or garden or even a ditch, but YMMV.

Just for the heck of it, have you tried running a rod down
the drain line? Have you tried putting a can of Drano in
the line, adding some water and letting it sit for a few
hours? I'd even consider doing the Drano bit from the
kitchen sink because of old buildup. Here at the house, we
have no problems, but I still do Drano in every sink yearly
or even semiannually.

Nonnymus

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Posted by Bob on May 27, 2006, 5:48 pm

> We have a GE "extra heavy duty large capacity" washing machine that has
> worked beautifully for more than a decade. Unfortunately, ever since we
> got it, the drain line has been problematical. The washer drain hose is
> stuck into a 1.5-inch ID pipe opening in the washer wall fixture behind
> it. If the seal between that drain hose and the pipe is not good, the
> water will overflow out the opening and spill down the side of the
> wall. (Yeah, we don't have a lot of wallboard left under there
> anymore.)
>
> Now, that same drain pipe is also fed by the dishwasher and kitchen
> sink, and there is no such trouble with them. Water drains out of the
> sink pretty quickly, in fact -- for a sink. As you might guess, without
> any overflow line (see below) the washer pump also fills up my sink. So
> it seems that at least between my washer and the kitchen sink, the line
> is OK.
>
> A plumber has come in to clean out the drain pipe, and nothing much
> changes. I finally attached an overflow line on the access port fixture
> on the outside wall of the house (conveniently behind the washer) that
> allows this water flow from the washer to shoot out into the garden.
> NIce, and kinda spectacular, but ...
>
> I've been told by a neighbor that I'm supposed to NOT have a perfect
> seal between the drain hose and the sewer pipe, as there has to be air
> pressure relief. (The plumber didn't think this was an issue.) But this
> is certainly not the solution to the problem because if the seal isn't
> good, as I said, the water just spills out faster!
>
> So it seems that I have a washer pump that is too powerful for my
> drain. What are my options? I guess I could constrict the drain hose a
> bit to slow the flow, but I'm concerned that might be stressing the
> pump. Would it? Actually, I'm probably already stressing the pump with
> my seal.
>

Code for this type of drain is 2" drain pipe. With a laundry tub, 1 1/2" works.

It is possible that careful cleaning of the drains could lessen your problem.
You
could plumb the washer hose directly to the drain and add an air trap there to
break
suction when the water stops. Then have drain stoppers that can be shut tight on
the
sink to prevent overflows there. Resticting the washer hose enough to reduce the
flow
would likely result in a place for lint to catch and gradually close it off
further. I don't
know how much pressure washer pumps can handle. Contact a washer repairman
for that info.

Bob


Posted by Nonnymus on May 27, 2006, 6:56 pm
Bob wrote:

>
> Code for this type of drain is 2" drain pipe. With a laundry tub, 1 1/2" works.
>
> It is possible that careful cleaning of the drains could lessen your problem.
You
> could plumb the washer hose directly to the drain and add an air trap there to
break
> suction when the water stops. Then have drain stoppers that can be shut tight
on the
> sink to prevent overflows there. Resticting the washer hose enough to reduce
the flow
> would likely result in a place for lint to catch and gradually close it off
further. I don't
> know how much pressure washer pumps can handle. Contact a washer repairman
> for that info.
>
> Bob
>

I wonder if someone might have not used a sanitary tee or
have gotten one installed backwards. It wouldn't be the
first time.

Nonnymus

Posted by Tony Hwang on May 27, 2006, 7:14 pm
Doug Lassiter wrote:

> We have a GE "extra heavy duty large capacity" washing machine that has
> worked beautifully for more than a decade. Unfortunately, ever since we
> got it, the drain line has been problematical. The washer drain hose is
> stuck into a 1.5-inch ID pipe opening in the washer wall fixture behind
> it. If the seal between that drain hose and the pipe is not good, the
> water will overflow out the opening and spill down the side of the
> wall. (Yeah, we don't have a lot of wallboard left under there
> anymore.)
>
> Now, that same drain pipe is also fed by the dishwasher and kitchen
> sink, and there is no such trouble with them. Water drains out of the
> sink pretty quickly, in fact -- for a sink. As you might guess, without
> any overflow line (see below) the washer pump also fills up my sink. So
> it seems that at least between my washer and the kitchen sink, the line
> is OK.
>
> A plumber has come in to clean out the drain pipe, and nothing much
> changes. I finally attached an overflow line on the access port fixture
> on the outside wall of the house (conveniently behind the washer) that
> allows this water flow from the washer to shoot out into the garden.
> NIce, and kinda spectacular, but ...
>
> I've been told by a neighbor that I'm supposed to NOT have a perfect
> seal between the drain hose and the sewer pipe, as there has to be air
> pressure relief. (The plumber didn't think this was an issue.) But this
> is certainly not the solution to the problem because if the seal isn't
> good, as I said, the water just spills out faster!
>
> So it seems that I have a washer pump that is too powerful for my
> drain. What are my options? I guess I could constrict the drain hose a
> bit to slow the flow, but I'm concerned that might be stressing the
> pump. Would it? Actually, I'm probably already stressing the pump with
> my seal.
>
Hi,
Don't blame washer. Something wrong on the side of the drain. Undersized
or being plugged up. How high is the stand up pipe? I have never
experienced problem like that. Had the problem always? If not think logic.

Posted by Roger Jensen on May 27, 2006, 9:09 pm
Doug,

Had this same identical problem with my washer. I used an adapter and made a
solid connection that was several years ago and no problems....

rog



> We have a GE "extra heavy duty large capacity" washing machine that has
> worked beautifully for more than a decade. Unfortunately, ever since we
> got it, the drain line has been problematical. The washer drain hose is
> stuck into a 1.5-inch ID pipe opening in the washer wall fixture behind
> it. If the seal between that drain hose and the pipe is not good, the
> water will overflow out the opening and spill down the side of the
> wall. (Yeah, we don't have a lot of wallboard left under there
> anymore.)
>
> Now, that same drain pipe is also fed by the dishwasher and kitchen
> sink, and there is no such trouble with them. Water drains out of the
> sink pretty quickly, in fact -- for a sink. As you might guess, without
> any overflow line (see below) the washer pump also fills up my sink. So
> it seems that at least between my washer and the kitchen sink, the line
> is OK.
>
> A plumber has come in to clean out the drain pipe, and nothing much
> changes. I finally attached an overflow line on the access port fixture
> on the outside wall of the house (conveniently behind the washer) that
> allows this water flow from the washer to shoot out into the garden.
> NIce, and kinda spectacular, but ...
>
> I've been told by a neighbor that I'm supposed to NOT have a perfect
> seal between the drain hose and the sewer pipe, as there has to be air
> pressure relief. (The plumber didn't think this was an issue.) But this
> is certainly not the solution to the problem because if the seal isn't
> good, as I said, the water just spills out faster!
>
> So it seems that I have a washer pump that is too powerful for my
> drain. What are my options? I guess I could constrict the drain hose a
> bit to slow the flow, but I'm concerned that might be stressing the
> pump. Would it? Actually, I'm probably already stressing the pump with
> my seal.
>



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