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waste pipe teshaf 11-19-2006
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Posted by teshaf on November 19, 2006, 11:38 am


I have an old cast iron waste pipe which has a hole about 2 inches. I
put a patch with screen and a compound with a firmco clamp over it.
stopped the leak for now. Question can this be repaired without digging
the cellar floor up. The hole is about 1/2 inch out of the floor. Maybe
a sleeve that will fit inside the 4 inch pipe and slip over the outside
with an expandable inside and compression outside? Or is the oly remedy
to dig the floor up and replace the whole pipe(I know this is prpoer
but money is a factor right now)>


Posted by BobK207 on November 19, 2006, 12:41 pm



teshaf wrote:
> I have an old cast iron waste pipe which has a hole about 2 inches. I
> put a patch with screen and a compound with a firmco clamp over it.
> stopped the leak for now. Question can this be repaired without digging
> the cellar floor up. The hole is about 1/2 inch out of the floor. Maybe
> a sleeve that will fit inside the 4 inch pipe and slip over the outside
> with an expandable inside and compression outside? Or is the oly remedy
> to dig the floor up and replace the whole pipe(I know this is prpoer
> but money is a factor right now)>


Sounds like you've fixed it fine (for now).

Depends on what caused the original hole, if the pipe is relatively new
& it was damaged mechanically then I'd for get about it until funds are
available.

If it's old (40 to 50+ years) then you probalby headed for replacement,
sooner rather than later.

My 75 year old house had all of the crawlspace laterals (cast iron)
replaced at ~70 years (about 10 years too late) the verticals all were
ok. Plus the laterals service the laundry & kitchen....harsh chem
waste (bleach, diswasher soap)

If you do any repairs make sure the internal surface is a smooth &
unobstructed as possible...maybe a rolled piece of aluminum shim stock
(or thin spring steel) as an inner wall form for any patching
compound.....outside doesn't matter so much.


There are techniques (pipe bursting or relining) that don't require
digging but they're not DIY friendly. I don't think pipe bursting
will work for pipe near the surface.

cheers
Bob


Posted by teshaf on November 20, 2006, 12:51 pm


Thanks Bob: Had a plumber come look today he said it should be dug up
and replaced so that is what I am going to do. The patch worked but is
only temparory so I may as well get it fixed right and be done. Thanks
for the reply.
Terry

BobK207 wrote:
> teshaf wrote:
> > I have an old cast iron waste pipe which has a hole about 2 inches. I
> > put a patch with screen and a compound with a firmco clamp over it.
> > stopped the leak for now. Question can this be repaired without digging
> > the cellar floor up. The hole is about 1/2 inch out of the floor. Maybe
> > a sleeve that will fit inside the 4 inch pipe and slip over the outside
> > with an expandable inside and compression outside? Or is the oly remedy
> > to dig the floor up and replace the whole pipe(I know this is prpoer
> > but money is a factor right now)>
>
>
> Sounds like you've fixed it fine (for now).
>
> Depends on what caused the original hole, if the pipe is relatively new
> & it was damaged mechanically then I'd for get about it until funds are
> available.
>
> If it's old (40 to 50+ years) then you probalby headed for replacement,
> sooner rather than later.
>
> My 75 year old house had all of the crawlspace laterals (cast iron)
> replaced at ~70 years (about 10 years too late) the verticals all were
> ok. Plus the laterals service the laundry & kitchen....harsh chem
> waste (bleach, diswasher soap)
>
> If you do any repairs make sure the internal surface is a smooth &
> unobstructed as possible...maybe a rolled piece of aluminum shim stock
> (or thin spring steel) as an inner wall form for any patching
> compound.....outside doesn't matter so much.
>
>
> There are techniques (pipe bursting or relining) that don't require
> digging but they're not DIY friendly. I don't think pipe bursting
> will work for pipe near the surface.
>
> cheers
> Bob


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