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water heater: removing anode rod George 02-13-2007
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Posted by George on February 13, 2007, 1:54 pm


(7-yr old 40-gal gas heater)

Our hot water got suddenly very 'rusty' two days ago. Cold water is
clear. I flushed the tank several times, and it still comes out dirty.
The company says to replace the anode rod. The question is, how?

It's threaded into the top of the tank. I've soaked around the head
with PB Blaster, but I doubt that's getting to the threads. Right now,
I'm using a 1/2" breaker bar with an extension pipe, and getting
nothing. I'm reluctant to use heat (acetylene), because, while the
insulation doesn't sustain combustion, it does sort of burn a little.

Any experience/suggestions would be appreciated. In particular, would
it be OK to use heat?

Thanks,
George

Posted by on February 13, 2007, 2:11 pm



George wrote:
> (7-yr old 40-gal gas heater)
>
> Our hot water got suddenly very 'rusty' two days ago. Cold water is
> clear. I flushed the tank several times, and it still comes out dirty.
> The company says to replace the anode rod. The question is, how?
>
> It's threaded into the top of the tank. I've soaked around the head
> with PB Blaster, but I doubt that's getting to the threads. Right now,
> I'm using a 1/2" breaker bar with an extension pipe, and getting
> nothing. I'm reluctant to use heat (acetylene), because, while the
> insulation doesn't sustain combustion, it does sort of burn a little.
>
> Any experience/suggestions would be appreciated. In particular, would
> it be OK to use heat?
>
> Thanks,
> George


I used a breaker bar, with 1 1/8 socket, and pipe extension to loosen
mine. Was tight, but not to the point where I was worried that
something would give. Make sure the tank is nearly full, that will
give you something to pull against. I agree about not using a torch
to heat. On mine there was little room to get at it, even if you
wanted to heat it.


Posted by Zephyr on February 13, 2007, 2:20 pm



> (7-yr old 40-gal gas heater)
>
> Our hot water got suddenly very 'rusty' two days ago. Cold water is
> clear. I flushed the tank several times, and it still comes out dirty.
> The company says to replace the anode rod. The question is, how?
>
> It's threaded into the top of the tank. I've soaked around the head
> with PB Blaster, but I doubt that's getting to the threads. Right now,
> I'm using a 1/2" breaker bar with an extension pipe, and getting
> nothing. I'm reluctant to use heat (acetylene), because, while the
> insulation doesn't sustain combustion, it does sort of burn a little.
>
> Any experience/suggestions would be appreciated. In particular, would
> it be OK to use heat?
>
> Thanks,
> George

Can't really comment on the heat / no heat option sorry, but, here are my 2
cents on the whole scenario

I don't know how much torque you are putting on the heater, but I found that
having someone there to help hold the heater in place when trying to break
the threads free was a wise idea. You could rip the heater right off its
moorings if you tried hard enough.

all that a side, I don't see how replacing the anode is going to fix your
rust problem. The anode is there to prevent rust, the rod itself ( with
the exception of a wire down the inside of the anode material) doesn't
really rust but more just disintegrates. If you have rust in the heater, a
new anode may slow down the development of more rust, but, you still have
rust there. And if you have rust in the tank, that means that some part of
the tank is no longer as strong as it once was.


Dave






Posted by George on February 13, 2007, 2:32 pm


On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:20:15 -0500, "Zephyr" <Someguy@an email
address.com> wrote:

>
>> (7-yr old 40-gal gas heater)
>>
>> Our hot water got suddenly very 'rusty' two days ago. Cold water is
>> clear. I flushed the tank several times, and it still comes out dirty.
>> The company says to replace the anode rod. The question is, how?
>>
>> It's threaded into the top of the tank. I've soaked around the head
>> with PB Blaster, but I doubt that's getting to the threads. Right now,
>> I'm using a 1/2" breaker bar with an extension pipe, and getting
>> nothing. I'm reluctant to use heat (acetylene), because, while the
>> insulation doesn't sustain combustion, it does sort of burn a little.
>>
>> Any experience/suggestions would be appreciated. In particular, would
>> it be OK to use heat?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> George
>
>Can't really comment on the heat / no heat option sorry, but, here are my 2
>cents on the whole scenario
>
>I don't know how much torque you are putting on the heater, but I found that
>having someone there to help hold the heater in place when trying to break
>the threads free was a wise idea. You could rip the heater right off its
>moorings if you tried hard enough.

I threaded a piece of 3/4" black pipe into the T&P outlet, and use that
to brace against.

>all that a side, I don't see how replacing the anode is going to fix your
>rust problem. The anode is there to prevent rust, the rod itself ( with
>the exception of a wire down the inside of the anode material) doesn't
>really rust but more just disintegrates. If you have rust in the heater, a
>new anode may slow down the development of more rust, but, you still have
>rust there. And if you have rust in the tank, that means that some part of
>the tank is no longer as strong as it once was.

There's a lot I don't know about this. It's odd that the rust (if
that's what it is) showed up so abruptly. The mfr's warranty support
insists that the rod will fix it. The rod is only $20; so, other than
the difficulty of getting it out, I'm willing to try.

I'm now considering taking the top of the shell off. That would let me
pull the insulation out of the way, and then I could go with the torch.

G

Posted by Art Todesco on February 13, 2007, 3:08 pm


George wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:20:15 -0500, "Zephyr" <Someguy@an email
> address.com> wrote:
>
>>> (7-yr old 40-gal gas heater)
>>>
>>> Our hot water got suddenly very 'rusty' two days ago. Cold water is
>>> clear. I flushed the tank several times, and it still comes out dirty.
>>> The company says to replace the anode rod. The question is, how?
>>>
>>> It's threaded into the top of the tank. I've soaked around the head
>>> with PB Blaster, but I doubt that's getting to the threads. Right now,
>>> I'm using a 1/2" breaker bar with an extension pipe, and getting
>>> nothing. I'm reluctant to use heat (acetylene), because, while the
>>> insulation doesn't sustain combustion, it does sort of burn a little.
>>>
>>> Any experience/suggestions would be appreciated. In particular, would
>>> it be OK to use heat?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> George
>> Can't really comment on the heat / no heat option sorry, but, here are my 2
>> cents on the whole scenario
>>
>> I don't know how much torque you are putting on the heater, but I found that
>> having someone there to help hold the heater in place when trying to break
>> the threads free was a wise idea. You could rip the heater right off its
>> moorings if you tried hard enough.
>
> I threaded a piece of 3/4" black pipe into the T&P outlet, and use that
> to brace against.
>
>> all that a side, I don't see how replacing the anode is going to fix your
>> rust problem. The anode is there to prevent rust, the rod itself ( with
>> the exception of a wire down the inside of the anode material) doesn't
>> really rust but more just disintegrates. If you have rust in the heater, a
>> new anode may slow down the development of more rust, but, you still have
>> rust there. And if you have rust in the tank, that means that some part of
>> the tank is no longer as strong as it once was.
>
> There's a lot I don't know about this. It's odd that the rust (if
> that's what it is) showed up so abruptly. The mfr's warranty support
> insists that the rod will fix it. The rod is only $20; so, other than
> the difficulty of getting it out, I'm willing to try.
>
> I'm now considering taking the top of the shell off. That would let me
> pull the insulation out of the way, and then I could go with the torch.
>
> G
Ya, don't believe the manufacturer. On
mine they said, the reason for large
swings in temperature was sediment and
that I must put vinegar in the tank,
let it sit and then flush it out.
Didn't work, no how. About the only
thing is
that for about 2 weeks, when showering,
we had a hankering for salad, until
it all flushed clean. On my new tank, I
had a leak at the anode rod. This was
brand new, right out of the box. As I
didn't want to un-install it and return it,
I tried to tighten it. I got one of
those sockets from the plumbing department
where you put a large screwdriver or rod
through it, for leverage. I bent the
screwdriver and a rod. I finally put 2
pipe wrenches on the socket, and with
2 people, one on each wrench, we were
able to loosen it. Put Teflon tape
on the threads and torqued it down. I
know it's making contact, as I checked
with an ohmmeter. But, we got the leak
stopped.

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