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water heaters...gas or elect? eisenslimer 09-05-2006
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Posted by eisenslimer on September 5, 2006, 1:57 pm
what do y'all think?
I've heard that electric heaters are a much greater energy consumer,,,
for a gas tank we neeed to run gas lines which we would prefer to not
do.
if it's a huge difference in energy use tho,,,it may be worth it.
???????


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Posted by on September 5, 2006, 3:16 pm

eisenslimer wrote:
> what do y'all think?
> I've heard that electric heaters are a much greater energy consumer,,,
> for a gas tank we neeed to run gas lines which we would prefer to not
> do.
> if it's a huge difference in energy use tho,,,it may be worth it.
> ???????

I think what you really want to know is operating cost. That depends
mostly on how much gas costs vs electricity in your area, which we have
no way of knowing.

For most of the US, gas has been quite a bit cheaper than electric.
However, in the last couple years, the gap has closed quite a bit.


Posted by Stubby on September 5, 2006, 4:16 pm


trader4@optonline.net wrote:
> eisenslimer wrote:
>> what do y'all think?
>> I've heard that electric heaters are a much greater energy consumer,,,
>> for a gas tank we neeed to run gas lines which we would prefer to not
>> do.
>> if it's a huge difference in energy use tho,,,it may be worth it.
>> ???????
>
> I think what you really want to know is operating cost. That depends
> mostly on how much gas costs vs electricity in your area, which we have
> no way of knowing.
>
> For most of the US, gas has been quite a bit cheaper than electric.
> However, in the last couple years, the gap has closed quite a bit.
>
What you really need to think about is how good is the insulation around
the water heater regardless of whether it is electric or gas. If you
aren't using any hot water and the insulation is perfect, the water
heater won't cost anything in operating expenses.

Posted by on September 5, 2006, 5:42 pm

Stubby wrote:
> trader4@optonline.net wrote:
> > eisenslimer wrote:
> >> what do y'all think?
> >> I've heard that electric heaters are a much greater energy consumer,,,
> >> for a gas tank we neeed to run gas lines which we would prefer to not
> >> do.
> >> if it's a huge difference in energy use tho,,,it may be worth it.
> >> ???????
> >
> > I think what you really want to know is operating cost. That depends
> > mostly on how much gas costs vs electricity in your area, which we have
> > no way of knowing.
> >
> > For most of the US, gas has been quite a bit cheaper than electric.
> > However, in the last couple years, the gap has closed quite a bit.
> >
> What you really need to think about is how good is the insulation around
> the water heater regardless of whether it is electric or gas. If you
> aren't using any hot water and the insulation is perfect, the water
> heater won't cost anything in operating expenses.


So, you don't use any hot water where you live? Like insulation
anywhere else, there are diminishing returns for adding more
insulation. And heating the water you do use is a major factor in how
much it costs to operate. Also factor in that in gas water heaters a
lot of the standby loss is up the flue, which more insulation isn't
gonna fix. I'm not convinced adding more insulation around a water
heater is gonna do a whole lot. Insulation is cheap, and if it were
that easy to reduce energy costs, manufacturers would be doing it,
because they would then have a significantly more efficient unit that
customers would pay more for.


Posted by Stubby on September 6, 2006, 9:19 am


trader4@optonline.net wrote:
> Stubby wrote:
>> trader4@optonline.net wrote:
>>> eisenslimer wrote:
>>>> what do y'all think?
>>>> I've heard that electric heaters are a much greater energy consumer,,,
>>>> for a gas tank we neeed to run gas lines which we would prefer to not
>>>> do.
>>>> if it's a huge difference in energy use tho,,,it may be worth it.
>>>> ???????
>>> I think what you really want to know is operating cost. That depends
>>> mostly on how much gas costs vs electricity in your area, which we have
>>> no way of knowing.
>>>
>>> For most of the US, gas has been quite a bit cheaper than electric.
>>> However, in the last couple years, the gap has closed quite a bit.
>>>
>> What you really need to think about is how good is the insulation around
>> the water heater regardless of whether it is electric or gas. If you
>> aren't using any hot water and the insulation is perfect, the water
>> heater won't cost anything in operating expenses.
>
>
> So, you don't use any hot water where you live? Like insulation
> anywhere else, there are diminishing returns for adding more
> insulation. And heating the water you do use is a major factor in how
> much it costs to operate. Also factor in that in gas water heaters a
> lot of the standby loss is up the flue, which more insulation isn't
> gonna fix. I'm not convinced adding more insulation around a water
> heater is gonna do a whole lot. Insulation is cheap, and if it were
> that easy to reduce energy costs, manufacturers would be doing it,
> because they would then have a significantly more efficient unit that
> customers would pay more for.
>
I agree. The question is not simply "gas or electric?" For instance
if you have a teenager who soaks all day in hot showers, your heating
costs are likely to be higher. Of course I use hot water and the OP
needs to consider the limiting cases-- teenager for max waste and no use
for min waste.

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