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water powered sump pump minnew 07-19-2007
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Posted by minnew on July 19, 2007, 5:33 pm
Any opinions out there regarding a water powered sump pump as a back
up for an electrical sump pump? In theory, an independent back up
system sounds excellent, as opposed to a battery and/or generator.


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Posted by Pete C. on July 19, 2007, 5:50 pm
minnew wrote:
>
> Any opinions out there regarding a water powered sump pump as a back
> up for an electrical sump pump? In theory, an independent back up
> system sounds excellent, as opposed to a battery and/or generator.

A water powered backup sump pump is no more independent than a battery
or generator powered one. In all cases the pump is dependent on an
external power source. The main advantage of the water powered one is
the lack of maintenance required i.e. maintaining batteries or a
generator. Of course you have to have city water, if you have a well the
water powered pump isn't an option.

Since the backup pump is primarily applicable in a power failure
(assuming you maintain the regular pump properly so it doesn't fail), a
generator, particularly one of the little residential automatic units
can backup not only your sump pump, but also your refrigerator, freezer,
lights, heat, etc. so while it costs more than the water powered pump
it's worth considering. Those water powered pumps are kinda expensive
too. Those little automatic generators run on nat. gas or LP so if you
don't have those they aren't an option.

Posted by mm on July 19, 2007, 8:31 pm
wrote:

>minnew wrote:
>>
>> Any opinions out there regarding a water powered sump pump as a back
>> up for an electrical sump pump? In theory, an independent back up
>> system sounds excellent, as opposed to a battery and/or generator.
>
>A water powered backup sump pump is no more independent than a battery
>or generator powered one.

It's independent of the power source for the first sump pump.

> In all cases the pump is dependent on an
>external power source.

But a different one.

Almost everywhere, water pressure fails a lot less than electric power
does, and in the last 24 years here, the water has never failed when
the electric is out. They're independent of each other.

>The main advantage of the water powered one is
>the lack of maintenance required i.e. maintaining batteries or a
>generator. Of course you have to have city water, if you have a well the
>water powered pump isn't an option.

True.
>

Posted by Pete C. on July 19, 2007, 10:22 pm
mm wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> >minnew wrote:
> >>
> >> Any opinions out there regarding a water powered sump pump as a back
> >> up for an electrical sump pump? In theory, an independent back up
> >> system sounds excellent, as opposed to a battery and/or generator.
> >
> >A water powered backup sump pump is no more independent than a battery
> >or generator powered one.
>
> It's independent of the power source for the first sump pump.

So is a battery pump or a generator.

>
> > In all cases the pump is dependent on an
> >external power source.
>
> But a different one.

In all cases.

>
> Almost everywhere, water pressure fails a lot less than electric power
> does, and in the last 24 years here, the water has never failed when
> the electric is out. They're independent of each other.

Yes, but a water powered pump is still reliant on an external power
source.

>
> >The main advantage of the water powered one is
> >the lack of maintenance required i.e. maintaining batteries or a
> >generator. Of course you have to have city water, if you have a well the
> >water powered pump isn't an option.
>
> True.
> >

Posted by hallerb@aol.com on July 19, 2007, 10:33 pm
ideally all sumps would drain to daylight by gravity. amazing so many
people use pumps when they could have a ditch dug to a low area on
their property or near the street, even if its just a overflow for a
existing sump


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