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woodworking/millwork question Crabshell 04-08-2008
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Posted by dpb on April 8, 2008, 9:05 pm
Crabshell wrote:
...

> It's Ipe wood and it's for a decorative plaque. The finished plaque needs
> to measure 8.5"h x 17"w x 1/2"d (my original post said 3/4"). The only Ipe
> I have found online that accomodates those dimensions is 9"h x 2"d, which
> is way too thick. The finish has to be pristine being that it's
> decorative.

If you're in a moderate or large area I'd say there would be good chance
a shop would be able to come up w/ something far closer to your needs as
starting point.

Does it _have_ to be ipe? There are lots of other dark woods. What
other requirements?

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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on April 8, 2008, 10:13 pm

>
> It's Ipe wood and it's for a decorative plaque. The finished plaque needs
> to measure 8.5"h x 17"w x 1/2"d (my original post said 3/4"). The only Ipe
> I have found online that accomodates those dimensions is 9"h x 2"d, which
> is way too thick. The finish has to be pristine being that it's
> decorative.

Does it have to be one piece? You often pay a premium for wider boards but
they are available. If you can't find a board wide enough, you can glue two
or more pieces with a perfect joint. Walnut and cherry would be nice also
and on the darker side that you want. 4/4 rough stock will finish at 3/4"
easily.

This will give you an idea of what is available. Keep in mind, it is random
with x 10" long and you must buy the full board.
http://www.cwghardwoodoutlet.com/


Your best bet is to find a local woodworker that would do this for you.
Many of us would do it for little more than the cost of materials. If it is
from a wood I don't have or need, I'd charge you for the full board that I'd
have to buy or you can supply it.



Posted by Norminn on April 9, 2008, 7:23 pm
Crabshell wrote:

>
>
>
>>On 4/8/2008 4:31 PM Crabshell spake thus:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Can anyone tell me if a professional woodworking shop can rip a piece
>>>of wood measuring 9" x 2" x 8' down to a 9" x .75" x 8'? Does this
>>>type of rip have a unique name?
>>>
>>>
>>I think what you're describing is usually called "resawing", and is
>>typically done on a bandsaw. However, that's quite a thin slice you're
>>asking for there, kind of the equivalent of using a big-ass cheese
>>slicer on a 2" board. Very difficult to get a good cut. (It would
>>probably need to be run through a planer after resawing.) What are you
>>using this for? I assume it's not cheap pine and that you can't (or
>>don't want to) run down to the lumber yard and get an 8-foot 1x10.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>It's Ipe wood and it's for a decorative plaque. The finished plaque needs
>to measure 8.5"h x 17"w x 1/2"d (my original post said 3/4"). The only Ipe
>I have found online that accomodates those dimensions is 9"h x 2"d, which
>is way too thick. The finish has to be pristine being that it's
>decorative.
>
>
I got curious because this thread has gone so long and, never having
heard of "ipe wood", I did a little
googling. Ipe is not just a piece of wood, apparently. It is
exceedingly hard and also difficult to finish.
If you do a Google search on ' ipe wood "custom milling" ' you will
probably find what I found. Just
for the sake of getting experienced wooddworkers, I'll post to
rec.woodworking.

I had some oak custom cut and routed edges once, for a bargain price.
The jobber told me afterward
that he burned up several router bits, and would have charged me more
had he known how tough it
would be. He did fine work, and stuck to the price he quoted me.

Posted by jo4hn on April 9, 2008, 10:19 pm
Norminn wrote:
> Crabshell wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> On 4/8/2008 4:31 PM Crabshell spake thus:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me if a professional woodworking shop can rip a piece
>>>> of wood measuring 9" x 2" x 8' down to a 9" x .75" x 8'? Does this
>>>> type of rip have a unique name?
>>> I think what you're describing is usually called "resawing", and is
>>> typically done on a bandsaw. However, that's quite a thin slice you're
>>> asking for there, kind of the equivalent of using a big-ass cheese
>>> slicer on a 2" board. Very difficult to get a good cut. (It would
>>> probably need to be run through a planer after resawing.) What are you
>>> using this for? I assume it's not cheap pine and that you can't (or
>>> don't want to) run down to the lumber yard and get an 8-foot 1x10.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It's Ipe wood and it's for a decorative plaque. The finished plaque
>> needs to measure 8.5"h x 17"w x 1/2"d (my original post said 3/4").
>> The only Ipe I have found online that accomodates those dimensions is
>> 9"h x 2"d, which is way too thick. The finish has to be pristine
>> being that it's decorative.
>>
> I got curious because this thread has gone so long and, never having
> heard of "ipe wood", I did a little
> googling. Ipe is not just a piece of wood, apparently. It is
> exceedingly hard and also difficult to finish.
> If you do a Google search on ' ipe wood "custom milling" ' you will
> probably find what I found. Just
> for the sake of getting experienced wooddworkers, I'll post to
> rec.woodworking.
>
> I had some oak custom cut and routed edges once, for a bargain price.
> The jobber told me afterward
> that he burned up several router bits, and would have charged me more
> had he known how tough it
> would be. He did fine work, and stuck to the price he quoted me.

I have had success resawing 1x4 IPE to 1/2" nominal using a Delta 14"
band saw with a 1/2" 3 tpi Timberwolf blade. IPE is indeed hard but it
is consistent throughout its width. I ran it through a jointer and a
planer to achieve the proper thickness. I have also eased the edges
with a router. In short, no major problems.
        mahalo,
        jo4hn

Posted by Jim Yanik on April 9, 2008, 11:43 pm

> Norminn wrote:
>> Crabshell wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4/8/2008 4:31 PM Crabshell spake thus:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me if a professional woodworking shop can rip a piece
>>>>> of wood measuring 9" x 2" x 8' down to a 9" x .75" x 8'? Does this
>>>>> type of rip have a unique name?
>>>> I think what you're describing is usually called "resawing", and is
>>>> typically done on a bandsaw. However, that's quite a thin slice you're
>>>> asking for there, kind of the equivalent of using a big-ass cheese
>>>> slicer on a 2" board. Very difficult to get a good cut. (It would
>>>> probably need to be run through a planer after resawing.) What are you
>>>> using this for? I assume it's not cheap pine and that you can't (or
>>>> don't want to) run down to the lumber yard and get an 8-foot 1x10.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's Ipe wood and it's for a decorative plaque. The finished plaque
>>> needs to measure 8.5"h x 17"w x 1/2"d (my original post said 3/4").
>>> The only Ipe I have found online that accomodates those dimensions is
>>> 9"h x 2"d, which is way too thick. The finish has to be pristine
>>> being that it's decorative.
>>>
>> I got curious because this thread has gone so long and, never having
>> heard of "ipe wood", I did a little
>> googling. Ipe is not just a piece of wood, apparently. It is
>> exceedingly hard and also difficult to finish.
>> If you do a Google search on ' ipe wood "custom milling" ' you will
>> probably find what I found. Just
>> for the sake of getting experienced wooddworkers, I'll post to
>> rec.woodworking.
>>
>> I had some oak custom cut and routed edges once, for a bargain price.
>> The jobber told me afterward
>> that he burned up several router bits, and would have charged me more
>> had he known how tough it
>> would be. He did fine work, and stuck to the price he quoted me.
>
> I have had success resawing 1x4 IPE to 1/2" nominal using a Delta 14"
> band saw with a 1/2" 3 tpi Timberwolf blade. IPE is indeed hard but it
> is consistent throughout its width. I ran it through a jointer and a
> planer to achieve the proper thickness. I have also eased the edges
> with a router. In short, no major problems.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
>

it would be a lot easier to resaw short pieces of the Ipe board instead of
the full 8 ft.
I'd cut a bit larger than the finished size of the plaque and then resaw
the short piece,and leave the rest of the 8ft. board the full thickness,for
other projects.

you could also use a 10" tablesaw and ripcut each edge of the [short]piece
and then use a handsaw to cut any remaining material joining them.
They would still need planing,and the tablesaw kerf would eat up more
thickness.But for a 0.5" final,you probably can spare it.You just have to
have a good sharp blade,feed slowly and use the anti-kickback guard.

You could even get closer to your desired 0.5" thickness,and perhaps hand-
plane it smooth.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

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